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The dagger messed things up? Datakim Send a noteboard - 08/12/2009 11:45:43 PM
So I was rereading tDR the other day and realized that we never really get a full explanation. I always thought of it being a product of his ta'verenness, but that doesn't explain why he didn't have the luck BEFORE the healing. On the other hand, being healed from the taint of the SL dagger wouldn't seem to give any special abilities or luck. So I'm a little stymied.

Thoughts?


Is it possible that the taint from the SL dagger was somehow suppressing and disrupting his ta'veren abilities? Perhaps the pattern could not fully support Mat since he had been corrupted by the dagger.

However once the corruption was removed, Mat's ta'veren nature would have been free to manifest fully. So it's not that Mat gained any luck. It's that he should always have had that luck, but the SL evil interfered.

So essentially he became full ta'veren like the others during the beginning of the series. Then he got the dagger which totally messed with his ta'verenness powers. He was without luck for a time as a result and only when the corruption was healed did he become fully ta'veren the way he always should have been.
This message last edited by Datakim on 08/12/2009 at 11:46:17 PM
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