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She lost her advantage?!? Siuan probably saved her life Abunderment Send a noteboard - 09/12/2009 11:57:26 AM
by no longer being inside the Tower garnering favor over Elaida. Her back was to the wall at this point. The BA in the camp had to be eliminated before she went back or they could have easily scattered to the wind, or worse, created more chaos during a real battle!


I think a BA attack unlikely, for reasons I stated previously. But this is irrelevant because the tower would soon recognise Egwene.

Egwene's battle prep was thus irrelevant - and very nearly a CATASTROPHE. A few more minutes and she would have assaulted a Tower that was ready to give itself up!

This near-disaster was averted by luck. She made no attempt to gather intel.

Her "leadership" was crap. And her cowed advisers acted cowed.

Note that this is in response to claims of her perfection. She did ok in (her) circumstances. Doing ok is not "perfect", especially where her assumptions were shown to be wrong.

.. Oh, and surely she would have been in MORE danger from BA if in the tower? No Elaida to protect her. Mesaana on the loose. Chaos all about. Fookrooted. Kill her and she may just be a Seanchan casualty.

Siuan saved her life, I think.
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Semirhage and Egwene redqueen - 04/12/2009 02:31:45 PM 2099 Views
I agree with all of that. nossy - 04/12/2009 02:58:48 PM 1333 Views
Re: I agree with all of that. *NM* Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:22:49 PM 654 Views
Re: I agree with all of that. nossy - 04/12/2009 03:29:46 PM 1300 Views
Re: I agree with all of that. Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:33:03 PM 1317 Views
Re: I agree with all of that. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/12/2009 04:13:55 PM 1163 Views
The entire cast is full of Perfect Sues and Stuarts (I may have just made latter up) RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/12/2009 03:14:27 PM 1364 Views
If you plan to write that review before the last two books are out, you better get re-reading now. *NM* Insomdeon - 04/12/2009 03:20:31 PM 603 Views
I'm actually pretty comfortable with it! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/12/2009 04:12:32 PM 1260 Views
Re: I'm actually pretty comfortable with it! darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 06:50:10 PM 1282 Views
about Semirhage Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:21:32 PM 1672 Views
but nossy - 04/12/2009 03:26:29 PM 1217 Views
Re: but Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:35:52 PM 1239 Views
Re: but nossy - 04/12/2009 03:46:00 PM 1354 Views
Re: but Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:51:03 PM 1272 Views
Cadsuane is rather close to perfect herself. Legolas - 04/12/2009 08:37:21 PM 1401 Views
Re: but TaskmasterJack - 04/12/2009 05:04:12 PM 1227 Views
Re: but WAV - 04/12/2009 05:41:51 PM 1268 Views
She was never THAT person. Wotmaniac Reborn - 06/12/2009 01:22:39 AM 1211 Views
Never WHAT person? nossy - 06/12/2009 10:21:43 PM 1253 Views
I'm not sure I agree Sidious - 08/12/2009 12:54:43 PM 1077 Views
I agree! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/12/2009 04:31:24 PM 1175 Views
Re: about Semirhage redqueen - 04/12/2009 08:16:15 PM 1268 Views
Alas, Semirhage was actually an idiot Etzel - 04/12/2009 05:03:48 PM 1363 Views
Re: Alas, Semirhage was actually an idiot darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 06:42:41 PM 1274 Views
If one compares the characters... Etzel - 05/12/2009 11:24:16 AM 1147 Views
Did I miss Rand's marriage ceremonies? I always thought the three girls only bonded him *NM* Voscaia Sedai - 05/12/2009 11:27:36 AM 589 Views
You are right... Etzel - 05/12/2009 12:21:59 PM 1217 Views
I disagree darius_sedai - 05/12/2009 05:11:28 PM 1193 Views
Egwene had the best mix of teachers and a desire to learn. Most believable, IMO. *NM* fionwe1987 - 04/12/2009 10:17:56 PM 618 Views
That's really nonsense Etzel - 05/12/2009 11:13:20 AM 1137 Views
I think your perception is very skewed darius_sedai - 05/12/2009 05:16:46 PM 1217 Views
Agreed Sidious - 05/12/2009 06:15:46 PM 1224 Views
Bull! fionwe1987 - 06/12/2009 02:55:13 AM 1218 Views
Rabbit! BlackAdder - 06/12/2009 04:14:10 AM 1138 Views
Re: Alas, Semirhage was actually an idiot Sidious - 05/12/2009 06:11:40 PM 1182 Views
Indeed darius_sedai - 05/12/2009 06:30:39 PM 1261 Views
And yet Egwene is still a fool regarding Gawyn. Lord Haart - 04/12/2009 05:44:49 PM 1288 Views
Gawyn is a fool all of his own redqueen - 04/12/2009 08:02:10 PM 1244 Views
Re: Gawyn is a fool all of his own Lord Haart - 05/12/2009 05:54:11 AM 1125 Views
Please stop - your use of logic here is sickening! BlackAdder - 06/12/2009 04:43:31 AM 1182 Views
I disagree with most of that rAndy aL - 05/12/2009 10:58:12 AM 1263 Views
Egwene has a long way to go ... Abunderment - 05/12/2009 06:16:31 PM 1296 Views
Hardly a blunder Nameless Ashaman - 06/12/2009 01:43:54 AM 1204 Views
Re: Hardly a blunder? Send Egwene back to Silviana. Abunderment - 07/12/2009 04:03:08 PM 1246 Views
Or she her rescue forced her hand. She lost her advantage darius_sedai - 07/12/2009 04:47:56 PM 1084 Views
She lost her advantage?!? Siuan probably saved her life Abunderment - 09/12/2009 11:57:26 AM 1228 Views
darius_sedai - 09/12/2009 03:24:34 PM 1238 Views
She should have attacked when they first arrived Nameless Ashaman - 07/12/2009 09:35:33 PM 1115 Views
Don't damn me, damn Graendal Abunderment - 09/12/2009 12:51:18 PM 1153 Views
Re: Don't damn me, damn Graendal Nameless Ashaman - 09/12/2009 06:11:53 PM 1347 Views
A couple of points darius_sedai - 09/12/2009 07:11:18 PM 1251 Views
Yes, the Aes Sedai need to rediscover the meaning of "servants of all" *NM* BlackAdder - 06/12/2009 05:03:19 AM 1261 Views
I'm re-reading the series now for the first time in years. Egwene has always been a weak character. Master Radishes - 07/12/2009 01:12:15 AM 1181 Views
LOL *NM* Sidious - 07/12/2009 04:29:56 AM 526 Views
I think you'll find few people who agree with you on both of those counts... Legolas - 07/12/2009 01:53:58 PM 1238 Views
Not at all. Master Radishes - 07/12/2009 03:20:38 PM 1145 Views
Irritating teen spirits ... Abunderment - 07/12/2009 04:32:51 PM 1260 Views
As long as the bags were Louis Vuitton all would be fine *NM* darius_sedai - 07/12/2009 04:51:13 PM 642 Views
You must not have been reading the same series I have. Legolas - 07/12/2009 10:33:23 PM 1375 Views
Re: You must not have been reading the same series I have. Abunderment - 09/12/2009 01:12:56 PM 1148 Views
Re: You must not have been reading the same series I have. Legolas - 09/12/2009 02:59:04 PM 1358 Views
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