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She lost her advantage?!? Siuan probably saved her life Abunderment Send a noteboard - 09/12/2009 11:57:26 AM
by no longer being inside the Tower garnering favor over Elaida. Her back was to the wall at this point. The BA in the camp had to be eliminated before she went back or they could have easily scattered to the wind, or worse, created more chaos during a real battle!


I think a BA attack unlikely, for reasons I stated previously. But this is irrelevant because the tower would soon recognise Egwene.

Egwene's battle prep was thus irrelevant - and very nearly a CATASTROPHE. A few more minutes and she would have assaulted a Tower that was ready to give itself up!

This near-disaster was averted by luck. She made no attempt to gather intel.

Her "leadership" was crap. And her cowed advisers acted cowed.

Note that this is in response to claims of her perfection. She did ok in (her) circumstances. Doing ok is not "perfect", especially where her assumptions were shown to be wrong.

.. Oh, and surely she would have been in MORE danger from BA if in the tower? No Elaida to protect her. Mesaana on the loose. Chaos all about. Fookrooted. Kill her and she may just be a Seanchan casualty.

Siuan saved her life, I think.
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Semirhage and Egwene redqueen - 04/12/2009 02:31:45 PM 1968 Views
I agree with all of that. nossy - 04/12/2009 02:58:48 PM 1208 Views
Re: I agree with all of that. *NM* Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:22:49 PM 577 Views
Re: I agree with all of that. nossy - 04/12/2009 03:29:46 PM 1159 Views
Re: I agree with all of that. Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:33:03 PM 1172 Views
Re: I agree with all of that. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/12/2009 04:13:55 PM 1037 Views
The entire cast is full of Perfect Sues and Stuarts (I may have just made latter up) RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/12/2009 03:14:27 PM 1197 Views
If you plan to write that review before the last two books are out, you better get re-reading now. *NM* Insomdeon - 04/12/2009 03:20:31 PM 525 Views
I'm actually pretty comfortable with it! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/12/2009 04:12:32 PM 1131 Views
Re: I'm actually pretty comfortable with it! darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 06:50:10 PM 1142 Views
about Semirhage Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:21:32 PM 1537 Views
but nossy - 04/12/2009 03:26:29 PM 1090 Views
Re: but Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:35:52 PM 1100 Views
Re: but nossy - 04/12/2009 03:46:00 PM 1209 Views
Re: but Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:51:03 PM 1127 Views
Cadsuane is rather close to perfect herself. Legolas - 04/12/2009 08:37:21 PM 1261 Views
Re: but TaskmasterJack - 04/12/2009 05:04:12 PM 1092 Views
Re: but WAV - 04/12/2009 05:41:51 PM 1136 Views
She was never THAT person. Wotmaniac Reborn - 06/12/2009 01:22:39 AM 1074 Views
Never WHAT person? nossy - 06/12/2009 10:21:43 PM 1119 Views
I'm not sure I agree Sidious - 08/12/2009 12:54:43 PM 954 Views
I agree! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/12/2009 04:31:24 PM 1055 Views
Re: about Semirhage redqueen - 04/12/2009 08:16:15 PM 1104 Views
Alas, Semirhage was actually an idiot Etzel - 04/12/2009 05:03:48 PM 1229 Views
Re: Alas, Semirhage was actually an idiot darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 06:42:41 PM 1130 Views
If one compares the characters... Etzel - 05/12/2009 11:24:16 AM 1016 Views
Did I miss Rand's marriage ceremonies? I always thought the three girls only bonded him *NM* Voscaia Sedai - 05/12/2009 11:27:36 AM 513 Views
You are right... Etzel - 05/12/2009 12:21:59 PM 1087 Views
I disagree darius_sedai - 05/12/2009 05:11:28 PM 1057 Views
Egwene had the best mix of teachers and a desire to learn. Most believable, IMO. *NM* fionwe1987 - 04/12/2009 10:17:56 PM 530 Views
That's really nonsense Etzel - 05/12/2009 11:13:20 AM 1007 Views
I think your perception is very skewed darius_sedai - 05/12/2009 05:16:46 PM 1085 Views
Agreed Sidious - 05/12/2009 06:15:46 PM 1083 Views
Bull! fionwe1987 - 06/12/2009 02:55:13 AM 1061 Views
Rabbit! BlackAdder - 06/12/2009 04:14:10 AM 1000 Views
Re: Alas, Semirhage was actually an idiot Sidious - 05/12/2009 06:11:40 PM 1048 Views
Indeed darius_sedai - 05/12/2009 06:30:39 PM 1127 Views
And yet Egwene is still a fool regarding Gawyn. Lord Haart - 04/12/2009 05:44:49 PM 1144 Views
Gawyn is a fool all of his own redqueen - 04/12/2009 08:02:10 PM 1103 Views
Re: Gawyn is a fool all of his own Lord Haart - 05/12/2009 05:54:11 AM 1007 Views
Please stop - your use of logic here is sickening! BlackAdder - 06/12/2009 04:43:31 AM 1053 Views
I disagree with most of that rAndy aL - 05/12/2009 10:58:12 AM 1117 Views
Egwene has a long way to go ... Abunderment - 05/12/2009 06:16:31 PM 1153 Views
Hardly a blunder Nameless Ashaman - 06/12/2009 01:43:54 AM 1053 Views
Re: Hardly a blunder? Send Egwene back to Silviana. Abunderment - 07/12/2009 04:03:08 PM 1078 Views
Or she her rescue forced her hand. She lost her advantage darius_sedai - 07/12/2009 04:47:56 PM 943 Views
She lost her advantage?!? Siuan probably saved her life Abunderment - 09/12/2009 11:57:26 AM 1056 Views
darius_sedai - 09/12/2009 03:24:34 PM 1111 Views
She should have attacked when they first arrived Nameless Ashaman - 07/12/2009 09:35:33 PM 972 Views
Don't damn me, damn Graendal Abunderment - 09/12/2009 12:51:18 PM 1009 Views
Re: Don't damn me, damn Graendal Nameless Ashaman - 09/12/2009 06:11:53 PM 1208 Views
A couple of points darius_sedai - 09/12/2009 07:11:18 PM 1072 Views
Yes, the Aes Sedai need to rediscover the meaning of "servants of all" *NM* BlackAdder - 06/12/2009 05:03:19 AM 1096 Views
I'm re-reading the series now for the first time in years. Egwene has always been a weak character. Master Radishes - 07/12/2009 01:12:15 AM 1048 Views
LOL *NM* Sidious - 07/12/2009 04:29:56 AM 449 Views
I think you'll find few people who agree with you on both of those counts... Legolas - 07/12/2009 01:53:58 PM 1096 Views
Not at all. Master Radishes - 07/12/2009 03:20:38 PM 1006 Views
Irritating teen spirits ... Abunderment - 07/12/2009 04:32:51 PM 1111 Views
As long as the bags were Louis Vuitton all would be fine *NM* darius_sedai - 07/12/2009 04:51:13 PM 565 Views
You must not have been reading the same series I have. Legolas - 07/12/2009 10:33:23 PM 1186 Views
Re: You must not have been reading the same series I have. Abunderment - 09/12/2009 01:12:56 PM 1011 Views
Re: You must not have been reading the same series I have. Legolas - 09/12/2009 02:59:04 PM 1221 Views
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