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darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 09/12/2009 03:24:34 PM
I think a BA attack unlikely, for reasons I stated previously. But this is irrelevant because the tower would soon recognise Egwene.

Egwene's battle prep was thus irrelevant - and very nearly a CATASTROPHE. A few more minutes and she would have assaulted a Tower that was ready to give itself up!

This near-disaster was averted by luck. She made no attempt to gather intel.

Her "leadership" was crap. And her cowed advisers acted cowed.

Note that this is in response to claims of her perfection. She did ok in (her) circumstances. Doing ok is not "perfect", especially where her assumptions were shown to be wrong.

.. Oh, and surely she would have been in MORE danger from BA if in the tower? No Elaida to protect her. Mesaana on the loose. Chaos all about. Fookrooted. Kill her and she may just be a Seanchan casualty.

Siuan saved her life, I think.


Go read the chapters where all of this takes place, Egwene evaluates all (or most) of what you are talking about and realizes what she must do. She manages to try and execute 50 BA and get her forces prepared for war in less than 24 hours, she didn't have time to gather "intel" beyond what she learned from Saerin when she picked up the oath rod. It's not like she sat outside for 2 weeks then suddenly decided to attack!

And you are forgetting that when she gets to the bridge her first actions are to hold off the attack because something is clearly going on with the Tower. Her decision to wait for an hour averted the situation!

I'm not saying she was perfect, and neither did Egwene, the whole time this is going on she is agonizing over the decision, but she's also strong enough to realize that if she doesn't force the unification after the Seanchan attack that the Tower would never be whole again.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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Semirhage and Egwene redqueen - 04/12/2009 02:31:45 PM 1770 Views
I agree with all of that. nossy - 04/12/2009 02:58:48 PM 1008 Views
Re: I agree with all of that. *NM* Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:22:49 PM 483 Views
Re: I agree with all of that. nossy - 04/12/2009 03:29:46 PM 956 Views
Re: I agree with all of that. Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:33:03 PM 976 Views
Re: I agree with all of that. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/12/2009 04:13:55 PM 870 Views
The entire cast is full of Perfect Sues and Stuarts (I may have just made latter up) RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/12/2009 03:14:27 PM 1008 Views
If you plan to write that review before the last two books are out, you better get re-reading now. *NM* Insomdeon - 04/12/2009 03:20:31 PM 429 Views
I'm actually pretty comfortable with it! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/12/2009 04:12:32 PM 908 Views
Re: I'm actually pretty comfortable with it! darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 06:50:10 PM 936 Views
about Semirhage Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:21:32 PM 1326 Views
but nossy - 04/12/2009 03:26:29 PM 903 Views
Re: but Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:35:52 PM 895 Views
Re: but nossy - 04/12/2009 03:46:00 PM 994 Views
Re: but Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:51:03 PM 908 Views
Cadsuane is rather close to perfect herself. Legolas - 04/12/2009 08:37:21 PM 1055 Views
Re: but TaskmasterJack - 04/12/2009 05:04:12 PM 907 Views
Re: but WAV - 04/12/2009 05:41:51 PM 917 Views
She was never THAT person. Wotmaniac Reborn - 06/12/2009 01:22:39 AM 880 Views
Never WHAT person? nossy - 06/12/2009 10:21:43 PM 911 Views
I'm not sure I agree Sidious - 08/12/2009 12:54:43 PM 768 Views
I agree! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/12/2009 04:31:24 PM 863 Views
Re: about Semirhage redqueen - 04/12/2009 08:16:15 PM 898 Views
Alas, Semirhage was actually an idiot Etzel - 04/12/2009 05:03:48 PM 1042 Views
Re: Alas, Semirhage was actually an idiot darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 06:42:41 PM 893 Views
If one compares the characters... Etzel - 05/12/2009 11:24:16 AM 823 Views
Did I miss Rand's marriage ceremonies? I always thought the three girls only bonded him *NM* Voscaia Sedai - 05/12/2009 11:27:36 AM 418 Views
You are right... Etzel - 05/12/2009 12:21:59 PM 870 Views
I disagree darius_sedai - 05/12/2009 05:11:28 PM 843 Views
Egwene had the best mix of teachers and a desire to learn. Most believable, IMO. *NM* fionwe1987 - 04/12/2009 10:17:56 PM 442 Views
That's really nonsense Etzel - 05/12/2009 11:13:20 AM 808 Views
I think your perception is very skewed darius_sedai - 05/12/2009 05:16:46 PM 840 Views
Agreed Sidious - 05/12/2009 06:15:46 PM 872 Views
Bull! fionwe1987 - 06/12/2009 02:55:13 AM 862 Views
Rabbit! BlackAdder - 06/12/2009 04:14:10 AM 797 Views
Re: Alas, Semirhage was actually an idiot Sidious - 05/12/2009 06:11:40 PM 859 Views
Indeed darius_sedai - 05/12/2009 06:30:39 PM 904 Views
And yet Egwene is still a fool regarding Gawyn. Lord Haart - 04/12/2009 05:44:49 PM 961 Views
Gawyn is a fool all of his own redqueen - 04/12/2009 08:02:10 PM 890 Views
Re: Gawyn is a fool all of his own Lord Haart - 05/12/2009 05:54:11 AM 809 Views
Please stop - your use of logic here is sickening! BlackAdder - 06/12/2009 04:43:31 AM 876 Views
I disagree with most of that rAndy aL - 05/12/2009 10:58:12 AM 883 Views
Egwene has a long way to go ... Abunderment - 05/12/2009 06:16:31 PM 946 Views
Hardly a blunder Nameless Ashaman - 06/12/2009 01:43:54 AM 844 Views
Re: Hardly a blunder? Send Egwene back to Silviana. Abunderment - 07/12/2009 04:03:08 PM 870 Views
Or she her rescue forced her hand. She lost her advantage darius_sedai - 07/12/2009 04:47:56 PM 756 Views
She lost her advantage?!? Siuan probably saved her life Abunderment - 09/12/2009 11:57:26 AM 858 Views
darius_sedai - 09/12/2009 03:24:34 PM 872 Views
She should have attacked when they first arrived Nameless Ashaman - 07/12/2009 09:35:33 PM 803 Views
Don't damn me, damn Graendal Abunderment - 09/12/2009 12:51:18 PM 823 Views
Re: Don't damn me, damn Graendal Nameless Ashaman - 09/12/2009 06:11:53 PM 994 Views
A couple of points darius_sedai - 09/12/2009 07:11:18 PM 868 Views
Yes, the Aes Sedai need to rediscover the meaning of "servants of all" *NM* BlackAdder - 06/12/2009 05:03:19 AM 825 Views
I'm re-reading the series now for the first time in years. Egwene has always been a weak character. Master Radishes - 07/12/2009 01:12:15 AM 856 Views
LOL *NM* Sidious - 07/12/2009 04:29:56 AM 356 Views
I think you'll find few people who agree with you on both of those counts... Legolas - 07/12/2009 01:53:58 PM 872 Views
Not at all. Master Radishes - 07/12/2009 03:20:38 PM 803 Views
Irritating teen spirits ... Abunderment - 07/12/2009 04:32:51 PM 897 Views
As long as the bags were Louis Vuitton all would be fine *NM* darius_sedai - 07/12/2009 04:51:13 PM 482 Views
You must not have been reading the same series I have. Legolas - 07/12/2009 10:33:23 PM 990 Views
Re: You must not have been reading the same series I have. Abunderment - 09/12/2009 01:12:56 PM 824 Views
Re: You must not have been reading the same series I have. Legolas - 09/12/2009 02:59:04 PM 983 Views
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