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The interesting part is... Shannow Send a noteboard - 15/12/2009 01:44:46 PM

Ultimately your potential determines your gateway size. Asmodean's statement that the Power only had to do with the making of the gateway is the most correct one.

You need a certain amount of saidin or saidar to create the weave and make it effective e.g. 20 saidin/saidar. After that, when the gateway opens, it will do so until it reaches your potential, or until you stop it. This explains why Rand can make many deathgates of the same size.

I do think that Talents and strength in Spirit allow you to open a gateway with less saidin/saidar e.g. 15 saidin. This would theoretically allow you to open more gateways e.g. deathgates, even though their size would be limited.


The fact that you reach your maximum gateway size some time BEFORE you reach your full potential. Unless Rand was already at his full potential when he made the gateway in FoH, which seems to be contradicted by our observations.

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Gateway size and One Power strength - a theoretical model... Shannow - 15/12/2009 08:42:26 AM 904 Views
There's this.... Light in the Night - 15/12/2009 09:58:26 AM 543 Views
Yes Shannow - 15/12/2009 10:21:54 AM 430 Views
Rand's later quotes confirm, but also refute this. Also, Egwene throws a wrench in things..... Logain - 15/12/2009 04:02:33 PM 530 Views
both of thoes example still fit into this theory Apsalar Shadowdancer - 16/12/2009 08:49:35 AM 435 Views
who's gateway size have we seen increase? Onarishma - 15/12/2009 12:06:58 PM 477 Views
Neald... Shannow - 15/12/2009 12:18:24 PM 473 Views
Nice points, I wonder... Etzel - 15/12/2009 12:16:22 PM 425 Views
Angreal or sa'angreal do not increase your gateway size... Shannow - 15/12/2009 12:21:10 PM 418 Views
I can't remember Asmo's comment. Etzel - 15/12/2009 12:23:46 PM 535 Views
Light in the Night quotes it above... Shannow - 15/12/2009 12:27:42 PM 362 Views
Unfortunately Etzel - 15/12/2009 12:37:21 PM 388 Views
I'm pretty sure that Rand makes the maximum possible gateway for one person... Shannow - 15/12/2009 12:41:48 PM 377 Views
Yes, just wanted to mention this point. *NM* Etzel - 15/12/2009 01:03:46 PM 457 Views
Re: I'm pretty sure that Rand makes the maximum possible gateway for one person... Sidious - 15/12/2009 01:44:46 PM 479 Views
Well they might Sidious - 15/12/2009 01:42:24 PM 423 Views
How big was Cadsuane's gateway? Shannow - 15/12/2009 01:43:20 PM 505 Views
Re: How big was Cadsuane's gateway? Sidious - 15/12/2009 02:00:58 PM 421 Views
So 8 or 9 feet, I'd say...Edited to add another possibility. Shannow - 15/12/2009 02:05:48 PM 371 Views
Re: So 8 or 9 feet, I'd say... Sidious - 15/12/2009 02:09:06 PM 425 Views
I came up with another possibility after first replying to this issue... Shannow - 15/12/2009 02:11:41 PM 412 Views
Re: I came up with another possibility after first replying to this issue... Sidious - 15/12/2009 02:16:23 PM 392 Views
and in the TGS Siuan uses Vora's sa'angreal darius_sedai - 15/12/2009 04:56:34 PM 416 Views
I agree w/ you. Siuan and Vora's sa'angreal refutes one of the points in the original post *NM* Logain - 15/12/2009 05:08:23 PM 205 Views
Another theory Ryan - 15/12/2009 05:26:45 PM 397 Views
Excellent points darius_sedai - 15/12/2009 06:08:09 PM 396 Views
Ah, but what if it is on a genetic level? Ryan - 16/12/2009 05:08:29 AM 366 Views
Re: Ah, but what if it is on a genetic level? darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 05:20:14 AM 390 Views
What about Siuan and Vora's sa'angreal? Logain - 15/12/2009 04:06:55 PM 446 Views
Yes, pretty much Sidious - 15/12/2009 01:41:34 PM 396 Views
The interesting part is... Shannow - 15/12/2009 01:44:46 PM 403 Views
It seems to be a mental thing Sidious - 15/12/2009 02:06:25 PM 382 Views
Also, the part that has me stumped at this point... Shannow - 15/12/2009 01:49:24 PM 443 Views
Re: Also, the part that has me stumped at this point... Sidious - 15/12/2009 02:04:04 PM 529 Views
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