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Maybe never. She still has her foretelling... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 16/12/2009 10:16:44 PM
The last time Elaida was in such a tight spot (Alviarin begins to blackmail her), she raged for a time, before her complete belief in her Foretelling made her toughen up.

I have to wonder, given her previous behavior, if she will see this as the end of her hopes or merely as another inconvenience which she will</i? overcome because "prophesy" said so.

Maybe her misguided interpretations of prophesy will yet end up benefiting the Light, and ultimately lead to her redemption.
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How long until Elaida is broken and reveals the Travelling Weave to the Seanchan? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/12/2009 03:05:44 PM 1070 Views
Knowing Elaida's ego Etzel - 16/12/2009 03:30:38 PM 648 Views
Re: Knowing Elaida's ego BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 03:54:28 PM 619 Views
Not long DomA - 16/12/2009 04:21:27 PM 718 Views
I disagree with the Asha'man part darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 06:41:46 PM 658 Views
You misinterpreted me DomA - 17/12/2009 01:38:09 AM 634 Views
OH! I see now what you meant *NM* darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 02:09:13 AM 355 Views
That could be ironic ajfurst - 17/12/2009 06:27:36 AM 518 Views
Re: That could be ironic DomA - 17/12/2009 03:12:30 PM 570 Views
I'd like to see Tuon do something that helps the good guys Logain - 17/12/2009 05:07:07 PM 547 Views
Maybe never. She still has her foretelling... fionwe1987 - 16/12/2009 10:16:44 PM 580 Views
I doubt it darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 10:28:10 PM 649 Views
What lies did Leanne tell? Really, there's no reason to dismiss a redemptive arc for Elaida. fionwe1987 - 16/12/2009 10:48:09 PM 1010 Views
Re: What lies did Leanne tell? Really, there's no reason to dismiss a redemptive arc for Elaida. darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 12:15:46 AM 613 Views
PS why give Elaida a new name "Suffa" only to have her redeemed? *NM* darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 12:52:13 AM 571 Views
Tuli was redeemed rescued. *NM* Gher - 17/12/2009 12:59:12 AM 277 Views
yes but Suffa has a whole other meaning darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 01:29:37 AM 539 Views
I was mostly kidding. Gher - 17/12/2009 01:37:26 AM 493 Views
Fair enough darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 02:07:00 AM 535 Views
She suffers punishment and is then redeemed? BS said Elaida would be in the outriggers, IIRC. *NM* fionwe1987 - 17/12/2009 05:30:41 AM 262 Views
Re: She suffers punishment and is then redeemed? BS said Elaida would be in the outriggers, IIRC. darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 06:32:59 PM 545 Views
I agree. This doesn't reveal anything about her role. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2009 07:42:31 PM 474 Views
Hmm, OK, that's the second time I've heard that. Guess she'll live *NM* BlackAdder - 17/12/2009 06:38:37 PM 250 Views
Breaking her won't solve the entire problem. Look at Moghedien's example. Logain - 17/12/2009 12:57:36 AM 581 Views
Brutal, but effective darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 01:31:49 AM 564 Views
If it was that simple... Logain - 17/12/2009 02:14:55 PM 493 Views
not without revealing who she was to the AS darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 06:33:40 PM 812 Views
You're forgetting that Egwene, Nynaeve and Elayne didn't "break" Moghedien. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2009 07:48:14 PM 474 Views
good point. I agree on the difficulty of learning from the damane *NM* amirebram - 17/12/2009 06:20:51 AM 269 Views
I think there is a degree of over-complexity you are bringing to this. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2009 07:41:28 PM 604 Views
You're mis-understanding something Logain - 17/12/2009 08:04:11 PM 486 Views
No they don't darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 08:07:59 PM 504 Views
As above, they don't. redqueen - 25/12/2009 06:06:28 PM 565 Views
I don't think Elaida will need to be broken to reveal it... MightyYT - 18/12/2009 10:47:21 AM 478 Views
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