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What lies did Leanne tell? Really, there's no reason to dismiss a redemptive arc for Elaida. fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 16/12/2009 10:48:09 PM
The last time Elaida was in such a tight spot (Alviarin begins to blackmail her), she raged for a time, before her complete belief in her Foretelling made her toughen up.

I have to wonder, given her previous behavior, if she will see this as the end of her hopes or merely as another inconvenience which she will</i? overcome because "prophesy" said so.

Maybe her misguided interpretations of prophesy will yet end up benefiting the Light, and ultimately lead to her redemption.


RJ was quite unforgiving with these things. Just like Liandrin will never break the shield on her and Galina will never leave the Waste. Even non-df's who are selfish or petty see long lasting punishments... Amathera will never be Panarch again, and while she seemingly has found love and a life, she's "been put in her place", Siuan and Leane both suffered dramatic loss in OP Strength for their lying and meddling etc...

I imagine the next we see of Suffa she'll be a good damane, probably in Tuon's personal retinue and maybe with more control of her Foretelling :)
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How long until Elaida is broken and reveals the Travelling Weave to the Seanchan? - 16/12/2009 03:05:44 PM 1052 Views
Knowing Elaida's ego - 16/12/2009 03:30:38 PM 626 Views
Re: Knowing Elaida's ego - 16/12/2009 03:54:28 PM 599 Views
Not long - 16/12/2009 04:21:27 PM 698 Views
I disagree with the Asha'man part - 16/12/2009 06:41:46 PM 633 Views
You misinterpreted me - 17/12/2009 01:38:09 AM 604 Views
OH! I see now what you meant *NM* - 17/12/2009 02:09:13 AM 346 Views
That could be ironic - 17/12/2009 06:27:36 AM 496 Views
Re: That could be ironic - 17/12/2009 03:12:30 PM 549 Views
I'd like to see Tuon do something that helps the good guys - 17/12/2009 05:07:07 PM 524 Views
Maybe never. She still has her foretelling... - 16/12/2009 10:16:44 PM 559 Views
I doubt it - 16/12/2009 10:28:10 PM 623 Views
What lies did Leanne tell? Really, there's no reason to dismiss a redemptive arc for Elaida. - 16/12/2009 10:48:09 PM 960 Views
Re: What lies did Leanne tell? Really, there's no reason to dismiss a redemptive arc for Elaida. - 17/12/2009 12:15:46 AM 586 Views
PS why give Elaida a new name "Suffa" only to have her redeemed? *NM* - 17/12/2009 12:52:13 AM 559 Views
Tuli was redeemed rescued. *NM* - 17/12/2009 12:59:12 AM 265 Views
yes but Suffa has a whole other meaning - 17/12/2009 01:29:37 AM 511 Views
I was mostly kidding. - 17/12/2009 01:37:26 AM 472 Views
Fair enough - 17/12/2009 02:07:00 AM 514 Views
Breaking her won't solve the entire problem. Look at Moghedien's example. - 17/12/2009 12:57:36 AM 548 Views
Brutal, but effective - 17/12/2009 01:31:49 AM 542 Views
If it was that simple... - 17/12/2009 02:14:55 PM 474 Views
not without revealing who she was to the AS - 17/12/2009 06:33:40 PM 796 Views
You're forgetting that Egwene, Nynaeve and Elayne didn't "break" Moghedien. - 17/12/2009 07:48:14 PM 453 Views
good point. I agree on the difficulty of learning from the damane *NM* - 17/12/2009 06:20:51 AM 255 Views
I think there is a degree of over-complexity you are bringing to this. - 17/12/2009 07:41:28 PM 577 Views
You're mis-understanding something - 17/12/2009 08:04:11 PM 467 Views
No they don't - 17/12/2009 08:07:59 PM 481 Views
As above, they don't. - 25/12/2009 06:06:28 PM 546 Views
I don't think Elaida will need to be broken to reveal it... - 18/12/2009 10:47:21 AM 455 Views

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