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Re: What lies did Leanne tell? Really, there's no reason to dismiss a redemptive arc for Elaida. darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 17/12/2009 12:15:46 AM
The same ones Siuan did ... she was a Sister Siuan trusted with the knowledge of Rand before she was toppled as Amyrlin. Leane also helped perpetuate the Red Ajah and set up Logain story. Oh and she pretends to hate Siuan to help manipulate the Hall.

I'd be shocked if we saw Elaida's redemption... she's been painted as one of the "bad guys" for the entire series and she's kind of a nut job too :P

I'm not saying I wouldn't appreciate a redemptive arc for her, but since the next two books are likely to take place in a relatively short time frame I just don't see how it has a place.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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How long until Elaida is broken and reveals the Travelling Weave to the Seanchan? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/12/2009 03:05:44 PM 1258 Views
Knowing Elaida's ego Etzel - 16/12/2009 03:30:38 PM 787 Views
Re: Knowing Elaida's ego BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 03:54:28 PM 749 Views
Not long DomA - 16/12/2009 04:21:27 PM 897 Views
I disagree with the Asha'man part darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 06:41:46 PM 810 Views
You misinterpreted me DomA - 17/12/2009 01:38:09 AM 790 Views
OH! I see now what you meant *NM* darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 02:09:13 AM 421 Views
That could be ironic ajfurst - 17/12/2009 06:27:36 AM 658 Views
Re: That could be ironic DomA - 17/12/2009 03:12:30 PM 711 Views
I'd like to see Tuon do something that helps the good guys Logain - 17/12/2009 05:07:07 PM 688 Views
Maybe never. She still has her foretelling... fionwe1987 - 16/12/2009 10:16:44 PM 714 Views
I doubt it darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 10:28:10 PM 791 Views
What lies did Leanne tell? Really, there's no reason to dismiss a redemptive arc for Elaida. fionwe1987 - 16/12/2009 10:48:09 PM 1226 Views
Re: What lies did Leanne tell? Really, there's no reason to dismiss a redemptive arc for Elaida. darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 12:15:46 AM 813 Views
PS why give Elaida a new name "Suffa" only to have her redeemed? *NM* darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 12:52:13 AM 654 Views
Tuli was redeemed rescued. *NM* Gher - 17/12/2009 12:59:12 AM 341 Views
yes but Suffa has a whole other meaning darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 01:29:37 AM 684 Views
I was mostly kidding. Gher - 17/12/2009 01:37:26 AM 646 Views
Fair enough darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 02:07:00 AM 673 Views
She suffers punishment and is then redeemed? BS said Elaida would be in the outriggers, IIRC. *NM* fionwe1987 - 17/12/2009 05:30:41 AM 336 Views
Re: She suffers punishment and is then redeemed? BS said Elaida would be in the outriggers, IIRC. darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 06:32:59 PM 694 Views
I agree. This doesn't reveal anything about her role. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2009 07:42:31 PM 619 Views
Hmm, OK, that's the second time I've heard that. Guess she'll live *NM* BlackAdder - 17/12/2009 06:38:37 PM 329 Views
Breaking her won't solve the entire problem. Look at Moghedien's example. Logain - 17/12/2009 12:57:36 AM 729 Views
Brutal, but effective darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 01:31:49 AM 699 Views
If it was that simple... Logain - 17/12/2009 02:14:55 PM 636 Views
not without revealing who she was to the AS darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 06:33:40 PM 958 Views
You're forgetting that Egwene, Nynaeve and Elayne didn't "break" Moghedien. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2009 07:48:14 PM 598 Views
good point. I agree on the difficulty of learning from the damane *NM* amirebram - 17/12/2009 06:20:51 AM 337 Views
I think there is a degree of over-complexity you are bringing to this. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2009 07:41:28 PM 779 Views
You're mis-understanding something Logain - 17/12/2009 08:04:11 PM 613 Views
No they don't darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 08:07:59 PM 647 Views
As above, they don't. redqueen - 25/12/2009 06:06:28 PM 701 Views
I don't think Elaida will need to be broken to reveal it... MightyYT - 18/12/2009 10:47:21 AM 641 Views
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