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You're mis-understanding something Logain Send a noteboard - 17/12/2009 08:04:11 PM
Elaida cannot "show" anything. The sul'dam actually controls the weaving of the flows. The damane does not. It is impossible for Elaida to take control of the flows and show them where each weave is placed, etc. The best Elaida can do is try to explain it to the sul'dam. The sul'dam then has to guess as to what Elaida means and try to form something approaching semblance to what Elaida has described.

The only way for Elaida to "show" a weave to the sul'dam is to take the collar off of her. She can then weave whatever she wants.

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How long until Elaida is broken and reveals the Travelling Weave to the Seanchan? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/12/2009 03:05:44 PM 1116 Views
Knowing Elaida's ego Etzel - 16/12/2009 03:30:38 PM 683 Views
Re: Knowing Elaida's ego BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 03:54:28 PM 650 Views
Not long DomA - 16/12/2009 04:21:27 PM 773 Views
I disagree with the Asha'man part darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 06:41:46 PM 696 Views
You misinterpreted me DomA - 17/12/2009 01:38:09 AM 684 Views
OH! I see now what you meant *NM* darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 02:09:13 AM 375 Views
That could be ironic ajfurst - 17/12/2009 06:27:36 AM 550 Views
Re: That could be ironic DomA - 17/12/2009 03:12:30 PM 601 Views
I'd like to see Tuon do something that helps the good guys Logain - 17/12/2009 05:07:07 PM 580 Views
Maybe never. She still has her foretelling... fionwe1987 - 16/12/2009 10:16:44 PM 610 Views
I doubt it darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 10:28:10 PM 684 Views
What lies did Leanne tell? Really, there's no reason to dismiss a redemptive arc for Elaida. fionwe1987 - 16/12/2009 10:48:09 PM 1060 Views
Re: What lies did Leanne tell? Really, there's no reason to dismiss a redemptive arc for Elaida. darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 12:15:46 AM 657 Views
PS why give Elaida a new name "Suffa" only to have her redeemed? *NM* darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 12:52:13 AM 590 Views
Tuli was redeemed rescued. *NM* Gher - 17/12/2009 12:59:12 AM 293 Views
yes but Suffa has a whole other meaning darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 01:29:37 AM 577 Views
I was mostly kidding. Gher - 17/12/2009 01:37:26 AM 532 Views
Fair enough darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 02:07:00 AM 566 Views
She suffers punishment and is then redeemed? BS said Elaida would be in the outriggers, IIRC. *NM* fionwe1987 - 17/12/2009 05:30:41 AM 283 Views
Re: She suffers punishment and is then redeemed? BS said Elaida would be in the outriggers, IIRC. darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 06:32:59 PM 574 Views
I agree. This doesn't reveal anything about her role. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2009 07:42:31 PM 508 Views
Hmm, OK, that's the second time I've heard that. Guess she'll live *NM* BlackAdder - 17/12/2009 06:38:37 PM 284 Views
Breaking her won't solve the entire problem. Look at Moghedien's example. Logain - 17/12/2009 12:57:36 AM 616 Views
Brutal, but effective darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 01:31:49 AM 597 Views
If it was that simple... Logain - 17/12/2009 02:14:55 PM 527 Views
not without revealing who she was to the AS darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 06:33:40 PM 844 Views
You're forgetting that Egwene, Nynaeve and Elayne didn't "break" Moghedien. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2009 07:48:14 PM 501 Views
good point. I agree on the difficulty of learning from the damane *NM* amirebram - 17/12/2009 06:20:51 AM 284 Views
I think there is a degree of over-complexity you are bringing to this. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2009 07:41:28 PM 654 Views
You're mis-understanding something Logain - 17/12/2009 08:04:11 PM 517 Views
No they don't darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 08:07:59 PM 541 Views
As above, they don't. redqueen - 25/12/2009 06:06:28 PM 597 Views
I don't think Elaida will need to be broken to reveal it... MightyYT - 18/12/2009 10:47:21 AM 517 Views
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