Elaida cannot "show" anything. The sul'dam actually controls the weaving of the flows. The damane does not. It is impossible for Elaida to take control of the flows and show them where each weave is placed, etc. The best Elaida can do is try to explain it to the sul'dam. The sul'dam then has to guess as to what Elaida means and try to form something approaching semblance to what Elaida has described.
The only way for Elaida to "show" a weave to the sul'dam is to take the collar off of her. She can then weave whatever she wants.
The only way for Elaida to "show" a weave to the sul'dam is to take the collar off of her. She can then weave whatever she wants.
Only When Elayne and company had Moghedien did we see that ... the sul'dam only tell/direct the damane. Renna would tell Egwene what she wanted her to weave and the force Egwene to do it ... there is a scene where Egwene get's punished because the sul'dam knows Egwene didn't even try to do as directed.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
How long until Elaida is broken and reveals the Travelling Weave to the Seanchan?
- 16/12/2009 03:05:44 PM
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Not long
- 16/12/2009 04:21:27 PM
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I disagree with the Asha'man part
- 16/12/2009 06:41:46 PM
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You misinterpreted me
- 17/12/2009 01:38:09 AM
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*NM*
Maybe never. She still has her foretelling...
- 16/12/2009 10:16:44 PM
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I doubt it
- 16/12/2009 10:28:10 PM
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What lies did Leanne tell? Really, there's no reason to dismiss a redemptive arc for Elaida.
- 16/12/2009 10:48:09 PM
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Re: What lies did Leanne tell? Really, there's no reason to dismiss a redemptive arc for Elaida.
- 17/12/2009 12:15:46 AM
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PS why give Elaida a new name "Suffa" only to have her redeemed? *NM*
- 17/12/2009 12:52:13 AM
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Tuli was redeemed rescued. *NM*
- 17/12/2009 12:59:12 AM
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yes but Suffa has a whole other meaning
- 17/12/2009 01:29:37 AM
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She suffers punishment and is then redeemed? BS said Elaida would be in the outriggers, IIRC. *NM*
- 17/12/2009 05:30:41 AM
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Re: She suffers punishment and is then redeemed? BS said Elaida would be in the outriggers, IIRC.
- 17/12/2009 06:32:59 PM
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Hmm, OK, that's the second time I've heard that. Guess she'll live 
*NM*
- 17/12/2009 06:38:37 PM
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*NM*
- 17/12/2009 06:38:37 PM
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Breaking her won't solve the entire problem. Look at Moghedien's example.
- 17/12/2009 12:57:36 AM
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Brutal, but effective
- 17/12/2009 01:31:49 AM
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If it was that simple...
- 17/12/2009 02:14:55 PM
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You're forgetting that Egwene, Nynaeve and Elayne didn't "break" Moghedien.
- 17/12/2009 07:48:14 PM
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good point. I agree on the difficulty of learning from the damane *NM*
- 17/12/2009 06:20:51 AM
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I think there is a degree of over-complexity you are bringing to this.
- 17/12/2009 07:41:28 PM
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You're mis-understanding something
- 17/12/2009 08:04:11 PM
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No they don't
- 17/12/2009 08:07:59 PM
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