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Re: I agree with most of this Sidious Send a noteboard - 04/01/2010 10:19:12 AM

What level had you placed Siuan at pre-stilling? I had her at 2.5 (same as Moiraine) and dropped her to a 1.1 after Nyn Healed her because she still seemed stronger than Daigain (who I have at a 1.0) but was weaker than pretty much every other Aes Sedai (and yes, I'm going somewhere with this). We know that if a man Heals a stilled woman (or a woman Heals a gentled man), the channeler goes back to full strength. I'm of the opinion that when a woman Heals a woman (or man Heals a man) that, rather than dropping to the minimum channeling level, the channeler gets a percentage of his/her power back (say between 45-50%) and that the stronger a channeler is, the closer to the 50% they would reach. So, say Egwene was stilled and then Healed by a woman, she would probably end up around the level Siuan was at before she was stilled, if not just a big lower (cutting her power in half, or just a bit less than half). We're actually using this in a RPG so I'm curious to see your opinion on the matter. Another player felt the character who was stilled and Healed by the someone of the same gender should be around Daigian's strength, if not lower, despite her being stronger in the OP beforehand.


I put Siuan's original strength at 25, and her post-healing strength at 8. I think Aes Sedai strength ranges from 5 to 25, with Daigian at 5.

Siuan used to be able to lift three times her body weight, now she can't even lift Gareth. We know that she's less than half of her original strength (she wants Nynaeve to get her back up to there) but this quote hints that she's only about a third as strong. We know from the quote that she is not the weakest woman in Salidar, so Aes Sedai fall even below one third of her original strength - and Daigian is probably much weaker than any other Sister because of her determination to be an Aes Sedai.

Thus I'd place Daigian at 5, or 20% of Siuan's original strength. Most Accepted fall between 1 and 10 I think, which explains why thirteen women can shield most men, and why the thirteen weakest Aes Sedai (around 10-15) can shield any man.
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