Active Users:629 Time:19/03/2026 03:38:58 AM
Semirhage's fate (Alive or Dead?) Sidious Send a noteboard - 06/01/2010 12:10:26 PM
TGS (The Last that could be Done) - Rand raised a hand and, filled with the power he did not understand, wove a single weave. A bar of pure white light, a cleansing fire, burst from his hand and struck Semirhage in the chest. She flashed and vanished, leaving a faint afterimage to Rand's vision.

Is Semirhage dead? Possibilities....

1. Semirhage is dead.

2. Semirhage Travelled. As one of the most skilled channelers of her Age, she could have done this. We've seen Lanfear disappear before in earlier books.

3. Semirhage wove an illusion of invisibility on herself and ran away. She took off the bracelet and let it drop to the floor.

4. The True Power, being the opposite of the One Power, makes balefire that propels you into the future. Rand left the room and went to banish Cadsuane. Semirhage rematerialized later in the room and was unharmed, and ran away.

5. The entire scene happened in Tel'aran'rhiod, with Semirhage still in her cell. Although she was shielded, she entered TAR, pulled Rand in and created an overly elaborate scenario to break him. It worked and he thought he'd killed her. Shadar Haran freed her later and she and Elza left the place.

6. It's one of Lews Therin's memories from the War of Power, washing over his own. Combined with the fact that Rand is mildly tainted himself, he perceived something that didn't happen.

7. Semirhage's fireball in KoD had a weave of Compulsion that sucked onto Rand's brain. It was designed to unravel/activate after about a week. When it did, it made him delusional and he thought Semirhage had caught him. In the mean time, Shadar Haran freed Semirhage.

8. Rand hit her with an invisibility weave, not balefire. She ran away and Moridin unravelled it. Rand himself said he didn't understand the power he was using.

9. Graendal wove an illusion of Semirhage and sent it after Rand while Shadar Haran freed the real Semirhage. Graendal watched the scene unfold and at the exact moment she sensed his balefire coming, she let her illusion disappear.

10. It wasn't Semirhage from the beginning, but Sammael who had resurfaced. Using Semirhage as a disguise he got himself into a whole lot of trouble and died for real this time.

Thoughts?
Wheel of Time board admin
Fan of Lanfear
This message last edited by Sidious on 06/01/2010 at 12:11:17 PM
Reply to message
Semirhage's fate (Alive or Dead?) - 06/01/2010 12:10:26 PM 1680 Views
Like Graendal, she is dead... - 06/01/2010 12:19:23 PM 1146 Views
hasn't BSand said there will be another Graendal POV? - 06/01/2010 02:39:15 PM 1063 Views
Nope... - 06/01/2010 02:41:15 PM 1026 Views
You're reading a lot into that - 06/01/2010 02:53:47 PM 923 Views
Never happened in the series before... - 06/01/2010 03:24:40 PM 989 Views
Re: Never happened in the series before... - 06/01/2010 03:27:04 PM 856 Views
They aren't dead. She is. *NM* - 06/01/2010 03:32:00 PM 424 Views
As said, your second option is likely - 06/01/2010 03:36:12 PM 937 Views
aren't you the one who keeps arguing that Slayer must have killed Asmo - 06/01/2010 03:45:46 PM 932 Views
It seems... - 06/01/2010 03:55:45 PM 818 Views
perhaps, but it's "newly minted" in the Prologue - 06/01/2010 05:22:21 PM 970 Views
According to Tellings of the Wheel - 06/01/2010 05:45:19 PM 986 Views
*shrugs* - 08/01/2010 05:31:23 AM 828 Views
That's a thin line of argument. - 06/01/2010 03:29:06 PM 784 Views
Possible, but very unlikely. *NM* - 06/01/2010 03:37:32 PM 539 Views
No... Crossroads of Twilight happened during the Cleansing (Winter's Heart) *NM* - 06/01/2010 09:20:46 PM 493 Views
You misunderstand my comment - 08/01/2010 05:30:17 AM 1479 Views
Well, it can't be 100% concurrent... - 08/01/2010 06:33:47 AM 938 Views
We saw Perrin and Mat - 08/01/2010 03:15:53 PM 914 Views
It happened partially - 06/01/2010 03:58:58 PM 847 Views
I doubt... - 06/01/2010 04:12:53 PM 858 Views
Yet Sammael knew even before he had her convinced he would be NB - 06/01/2010 05:46:03 PM 844 Views
Both were old comrades, though. *NM* - 06/01/2010 05:49:11 PM 950 Views
Old comrades? - 08/01/2010 05:41:18 AM 850 Views
Yub, for Forsaken they were pretty close; closer than Graendal and Aran'gar. *NM* - 08/01/2010 07:18:01 AM 532 Views
I disagree that Graendal and Sammael were "chummy" - 08/01/2010 03:19:48 PM 839 Views
The point was that Graendal and Aran'gar aren't that close... - 08/01/2010 03:37:06 PM 944 Views
I agree. - 06/01/2010 06:57:35 PM 908 Views
Re: hasn't BSand said there will be another Graendal POV? - 06/01/2010 04:33:50 PM 909 Views
I wonder if the DO could ressurect her since it was his power that killed her? *NM* - 06/01/2010 02:13:41 PM 458 Views
I doubt it personally - 06/01/2010 02:40:16 PM 870 Views
Here is what BS said - 06/01/2010 03:48:03 PM 1011 Views
Do you think ... - 06/01/2010 05:09:17 PM 806 Views
Good question - 06/01/2010 05:39:22 PM 889 Views
Re: Do you think ... - 06/01/2010 06:46:07 PM 826 Views
I think it was actually a combination of 7, 9 and 10 - 06/01/2010 02:49:53 PM 923 Views
Very inventive, but.... Semirhage is Toast with a Capital T. *NM* - 06/01/2010 03:24:36 PM 469 Views
Dead. *NM* - 06/01/2010 03:58:47 PM 605 Views
Graendal and Semirhage are D...E...A...D dead *NM* - 06/01/2010 05:53:57 PM 416 Views
I do like number 4 *NM* - 06/01/2010 06:44:24 PM 437 Views
Dead. - 06/01/2010 07:14:10 PM 929 Views
I also like Number 4 - 06/01/2010 09:12:09 PM 933 Views
Re: Semirhage's fate (Alive or Dead?) - 07/01/2010 03:33:38 AM 802 Views
Re: Semirhage's fate (Alive or Dead?) - 07/01/2010 03:23:43 PM 859 Views
wait you were joking? - 08/01/2010 05:45:07 AM 777 Views
He should have counted responses... - 08/01/2010 06:34:53 AM 817 Views
*NM* - 08/01/2010 11:42:26 AM 423 Views
A WOMAN DEAD AND GONE! *NM* - 08/01/2010 04:15:31 AM 430 Views

Reply to Message