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True... I forgot... Ashaman Narishma Send a noteboard - 14/01/2010 07:18:25 PM
Frankly, the story of Ashaman tiring because they had to keep the gateway open is a mistake by Sanderson.

In CoS, Sammael opens gateways for the Shaido and Graendal notes that he had tied some of the gateway off with a loose knot to dissipate after a predetermined period of time.

And in KoD, Rand and Logain make Deathgates that open and close to random locations, tie off 6 weaves at once and start weaving more Deathgates.

So there is actually no need to actively hold open a gateway. You can just open it, tie it off and move on to creating your next gateway immediately.

And as RJ said, a tied off weave can exist for eternity if you tie a permanent knot in it. No need for elaborate cuendillar contraptions.


about knotting a weave to hold it... I do like the idea of the cuendillar frame just because if you are squeezing through a doorway in multiples of people at a time you wouldnt have to worry about someone bumping you into the edge... I for one would be terrified to come within a yard of the edge of a gateway for the fear that someone may bump me into it and kill me... Cuendillar gateway safety shields so to say... With the incorporating them into your home or some such it would help keep your house from being damaged by a gateway frame... you would be able to fit a lockable door into the frame that enables you to shut the pathway...
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Cuendillar and Perpetual Gateways - 14/01/2010 03:32:15 PM 1584 Views
I'm still not sure if cuendillar would be "destroyed" or "remain" - 14/01/2010 03:55:00 PM 773 Views
well I think you've discovered something even more important - 14/01/2010 05:00:11 PM 808 Views
I love it... - 14/01/2010 06:23:59 PM 678 Views
exactly! *NM* - 14/01/2010 06:50:19 PM 329 Views
Quick question ... - 15/01/2010 01:34:21 AM 786 Views
No - cuendillar just gets stronger the more powerful a force you use against it - 15/01/2010 07:55:34 PM 693 Views
Re: Cuendillar and Perpetual Gateways - 14/01/2010 04:42:37 PM 740 Views
Cuendillar shields - 14/01/2010 04:57:45 PM 771 Views
Wasn't the consensus... - 14/01/2010 05:04:50 PM 785 Views
Really? - 14/01/2010 05:30:40 PM 686 Views
Re: Really? - 14/01/2010 05:52:45 PM 651 Views
Alright. - 14/01/2010 06:25:27 PM 635 Views
Even so... - 14/01/2010 06:30:35 PM 715 Views
Not sure, but the discussion might be saved somewhere (maybe in my e-mail somehow) - 14/01/2010 07:12:42 PM 829 Views
Lack of Creativity / Flame - 14/01/2010 07:31:32 PM 754 Views
let's do some quick math to see how feasible this is... - 15/01/2010 12:16:02 AM 590 Views
Again, Lack of Creativity - 15/01/2010 12:54:01 AM 633 Views
right cause they are full of new ideas in WoT! - 15/01/2010 12:57:52 AM 600 Views
Huh? Are you saying that... - 15/01/2010 01:49:23 AM 633 Views
It's not just a matter of creativity - 15/01/2010 03:42:38 AM 714 Views
Are you trying to be funny? - 15/01/2010 09:22:18 AM 686 Views
I think what people are saying to you (at least what I am saying) - 15/01/2010 07:58:31 PM 797 Views
What I am telling you all (at least telling you) - 15/01/2010 08:12:32 PM 591 Views
I disagree with part of that - 15/01/2010 08:17:30 PM 985 Views
The vast majority of WoT folk aren't particularly innovative - 15/01/2010 08:02:52 PM 606 Views
Pretty much. I think their religion is not doing anything helpful with the Power. - 15/01/2010 09:13:49 PM 581 Views
Mail is obviously out of the question... - 15/01/2010 12:54:32 AM 694 Views
realistically the timeframes involved to make even the shields - 15/01/2010 01:03:30 AM 722 Views
Kind of disagree. - 15/01/2010 01:37:42 AM 651 Views
We agree... maybe? - 15/01/2010 09:27:32 AM 672 Views
both - 15/01/2010 08:00:26 PM 582 Views
Please explain - 15/01/2010 09:29:29 AM 665 Views
not saying mail... - 14/01/2010 07:33:06 PM 609 Views
hey look! someone with creativity! - 15/01/2010 09:30:29 AM 732 Views
Cuendillar dragons are great... - 14/01/2010 06:45:12 PM 662 Views
Create a ter'angreal that can open gateways wherever it is pointed and triggered. - 14/01/2010 04:59:28 PM 636 Views
Maybe this was one of the violent games played for sport during The Collapse *NM* - 14/01/2010 05:14:05 PM 292 Views
Without a doubt *NM* - 14/01/2010 05:26:42 PM 296 Views
Or they could just tie the gateway weave off, like Sammael did in CoS, and Rand did in KoD... - 14/01/2010 07:11:56 PM 830 Views
Thanks; I thought this was the case but couldnt recall the sections. - 14/01/2010 07:13:32 PM 593 Views
True... I forgot... - 14/01/2010 07:18:25 PM 691 Views
Tied-off weaves dont last forever - 14/01/2010 07:39:53 PM 634 Views
No... - 14/01/2010 07:48:38 PM 703 Views
Correct. Q&A answer below regarding this. - 14/01/2010 09:08:02 PM 706 Views
Bingo - 14/01/2010 08:25:12 PM 645 Views
Refrigerators and aqueducts and more... Air Conditioning! - 14/01/2010 07:49:12 PM 711 Views
Is a gateway fixed in place? - 14/01/2010 07:55:20 PM 694 Views

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