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Ironic foreshadowing of Graendal's death? Etzel Send a noteboard - 17/03/2010 01:52:32 PM
At the Forsaken Garden Party in KoD, ch.3, Aran'gar muses regarding her possible alliance with Graendal:
"In truth, she had made several [alliances], but her allies always seemed to suffer fatal misfortunes once their usefulness ended, and they took all knowledge of the affiliations to their graves. Those who found graves."

Even if Aran'gar wasn't responsible for her death, this description would in hindsight perfectly foreshadow Graendal's demise in TGS:

Graendal and Aran'gar became allies, but obviously Graendal's usefulness ended after Rand appeared in Arad Doman, spoiled Graendal's plans and found her hiding place (one could say, her usefulness as a character in the story ended as well). Then Graendal suffered a fatal misfortune (especially that Nynaeve found Graendal's trail in time), which led to a balefire death without even a grave, where Graendal took all knowledge of the affiliations to Aran'gar with her.

Knowing that RJ liked to include such foreshadowing in the story, I think this further supports the apparent occurrence in TGS, namely that Graendal died her final death. It will be interesting to see if Aran'gar will think in the next book about the irony, that yet again one of her allies died under unfortunate circumstances, like she considered not so long ago in KoD.
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Ironic foreshadowing of Graendal's death? - 17/03/2010 01:52:32 PM 1030 Views
Wow Nice one... hats off to RJ *NM* - 17/03/2010 02:37:14 PM 179 Views
I like it *NM* - 17/03/2010 03:14:38 PM 163 Views
Hmmm, I don't think so. I think it may be indicative of his own end, though. - 17/03/2010 05:11:18 PM 470 Views
I don't follow your logic here - 17/03/2010 05:39:24 PM 398 Views
Re: I don't follow your logic here - 17/03/2010 05:46:05 PM 432 Views
Re: died sinfully - 18/03/2010 05:31:34 PM 357 Views
Re: died sinfully - 19/03/2010 02:03:14 PM 342 Views
Wait, have I read this passage wrong?? - 17/03/2010 06:07:31 PM 401 Views
No, Aran'gar muses about her own alliances. *NM* - 17/03/2010 06:24:35 PM 161 Views
That was my interpretation as well, when I read it in the book. *NM* - 18/03/2010 09:01:01 PM 145 Views
I agree *NM* - 17/03/2010 06:22:48 PM 157 Views
I don't really see "my fellow bad guys are going to die" as being terribly prophetic - 17/03/2010 06:24:32 PM 391 Views
As said... - 17/03/2010 06:26:15 PM 398 Views
Arangar's allies die because she kills them, not because of some random twists of fate... - 17/03/2010 08:18:24 PM 409 Views
I disagree... - 17/03/2010 08:50:31 PM 348 Views
If you're referring to the reference to "those who found graves", then it fits most Forsaken deaths - 17/03/2010 09:15:03 PM 354 Views
Aran'gar cynically considers... - 17/03/2010 09:27:34 PM 417 Views
Uh no - 19/03/2010 05:37:22 PM 358 Views
It doesn't fit with Graendal's demise enough to have been hinting at it - 18/03/2010 03:45:35 AM 573 Views
As I explained to others... - 18/03/2010 10:27:17 AM 384 Views
Wow Rand and Min.......RJ = Genius..... *NM* - 18/03/2010 02:57:53 PM 155 Views
Re: As I explained to others... - 18/03/2010 11:08:44 PM 368 Views
Yeah, that is also a good analysis! *NM* - 19/03/2010 10:13:59 AM 340 Views

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