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Men vs. Women Froggles Send a noteboard - 30/03/2010 09:00:50 PM
hey y'all....is there anything about this series that completely irks the sh*t out of you? there is really only one thing that gets me, but it makes me fume if i dwell on it (yes, a life = needed). anyway, the whole concept of the old tongue and the modern language make me want to shake something.

over the course of 2400-2500 years, the old tongue morphs into the modern language. this is fine, despite the fact that the structure of the two languages is very different. then hawkwing sends his armies to seanchan and over 1000 years pass until present time. i know handling multiple languages is a beast for authors, but it is impossible that there is no language drift between the languages of seanchan and randland. there is no way the two languages would have drifted to the same tongue, albeit with 'accents'. it wouldn't bother me so much if rj hadn't already included the concept of language changing over time, but as it is, ergh!

anything that gets you? and i mean substantial things, not dress descriptions.


The thing that bugs me the most is all the talk from both genders saying how the other is so crazy and foolish and does everything wrong. Does nobody in Randland actually understand that men and women are DIFFERENT and that it's actually OK?? Just because our brain chemistry is completely different, very often leading to different viewpoints and opinions, it doesn't mean the one or the other is wrong. It's just different. Often, the one will see things in a light the other hadn't considered, and vice versa. I believe that was intentional. In my opinion, neither gender can get the whole picture and function at peak efficiency without the unique insights and viewpoints of the other. That's exactly why RJ describes that the most magnificent wonders from the Age of Legends involved men and women working TOGETHER, which, to me, implies they were equal partners, each contributing their different views and ways of thinking without being belittled for thinking differently.

Sorry if it sounds like I'm on a soap-box here, but I'm just amazed that any of the marriages in Randland last at all if nobody has managed to figure this out. Luckily, I managed to figure it out BEFORE getting married, and it has helped a LOT.
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little things that irk you mazza3 - 30/03/2010 06:16:19 PM 1933 Views
All the GOOD GUYS smoke whitestar101 - 30/03/2010 08:24:42 PM 1347 Views
Culturally it's probably an accurate description. It is 16th/17th century Lordling - 30/03/2010 08:47:19 PM 1055 Views
It's probably just one of his homages to LotR or something. *NM* orius - 02/04/2010 07:45:14 AM 530 Views
He's from South Carolina. Tobacco is important there. krassos - 23/04/2010 11:57:31 PM 900 Views
Men vs. Women Froggles - 30/03/2010 09:00:50 PM 1226 Views
I get tired of that too. Narg - 31/03/2010 12:10:08 AM 915 Views
Re: I get tired of that too. Timthetrolloc - 31/03/2010 01:35:08 AM 911 Views
I agree - IRL I often notice that it's less "men" vs "women", and moreso personality clashes. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 31/03/2010 02:45:16 PM 915 Views
Sword Forms Timthetrolloc - 30/03/2010 09:37:02 PM 985 Views
I love Sword forms. Fanatic-Templar - 30/03/2010 10:06:03 PM 1003 Views
Re: I love Sword forms. Timthetrolloc - 30/03/2010 10:13:06 PM 1054 Views
I think that is the point. Narg - 31/03/2010 12:15:56 AM 966 Views
Re: I think that is the point. Timthetrolloc - 31/03/2010 01:33:04 AM 972 Views
That's true. Fanatic-Templar - 31/03/2010 01:02:48 AM 1054 Views
Re: That's true. Timthetrolloc - 31/03/2010 01:37:09 AM 862 Views
He leaves that to your imagination. krassos - 01/04/2010 05:49:52 PM 911 Views
I'm of the opinion that blademasters are not the match of a powerful warrior RugbyPlayingAshaman - 31/03/2010 03:34:49 PM 1006 Views
Re: Sword Forms - Agreed, YAWN!!! *NM* Evil_Monkey - 01/04/2010 02:00:35 PM 447 Views
RJ's spelling and pronunciation of names. Narg - 31/03/2010 12:31:44 AM 2608 Views
yeah, the fact that the different languages are there is totally fine and enjoyable.... mazza3 - 31/03/2010 04:45:28 PM 934 Views
Rand's stupid need to try to be hard newyorkersedai - 31/03/2010 01:12:41 AM 908 Views
Re: little things that irk you saidarisnowtainted - 31/03/2010 01:16:51 AM 1061 Views
Re: little things that irk you Timthetrolloc - 31/03/2010 02:51:12 AM 944 Views
WORD! is it really so amazing when channelers 'invent' something new? mazza3 - 31/03/2010 04:46:43 PM 1135 Views
Re: WORD! is it really so amazing when channelers 'invent' something new? Timthetrolloc - 31/03/2010 09:00:50 PM 924 Views
RJ should show more evil things... Etzel - 31/03/2010 12:41:25 PM 1078 Views
I think he doesn't know how to write what an evil character would look or sound like RugbyPlayingAshaman - 31/03/2010 03:27:36 PM 988 Views
Yip - he pretty much confirms that Sidious - 01/04/2010 03:35:32 PM 921 Views
You'd need to be crazy or weak to write Fain easily newyorkersedai - 02/04/2010 05:33:32 AM 953 Views
Re: You'd need to be crazy or weak to write Fain easily RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/04/2010 03:02:56 PM 930 Views
Re: You'd need to be crazy or weak to write Fain easily newyorkersedai - 27/05/2010 10:59:53 PM 1035 Views
I don't know darius_sedai - 08/04/2010 11:45:59 AM 888 Views
Re: little things that irk you *NM* Gerbeaud - 31/03/2010 02:25:38 PM 566 Views
Well Said. *NM* Narg - 31/03/2010 03:13:35 PM 505 Views
i'd like to add to this point... *NM* saidarisnowtainted - 31/03/2010 03:44:05 PM 465 Views
is your ultimate pet peeve the term pet peeve as well? *NM* mazza3 - 31/03/2010 04:47:18 PM 493 Views
It irks me that you are irked *NM* saidarisnowtainted - 31/03/2010 05:15:49 PM 457 Views
Yes Sidious - 01/04/2010 03:25:48 PM 979 Views
I've always wondered why RJ didn't try to develop this theme ... Yondaime - 01/04/2010 06:10:23 PM 970 Views
It's less of a theme and more like a case of mental derangement RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/04/2010 09:04:58 PM 902 Views
it's even more frustrating that it started to be used for a while darius_sedai - 08/04/2010 11:51:42 AM 927 Views
Agree on all points, especially #2 Narg - 01/04/2010 10:40:16 PM 1116 Views
Re: Agree on all points, especially #2 saidarisnowtainted - 02/04/2010 01:52:08 AM 842 Views
You've figured it out! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/04/2010 02:45:26 PM 939 Views
tell me about it redqueen - 02/04/2010 11:34:47 AM 906 Views
Attempting to pronounce the dang names. I like the names, but they're so hard to pronounce. *NM* LordPerrin - 08/04/2010 03:44:39 AM 923 Views
My pet peeve: using an ' to make names or titles sound foreign. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/04/2010 04:17:01 PM 916 Views
Dealing with being irked--an exercise in fighting fire with fire... saidarisnowtainted - 06/05/2010 01:58:04 AM 792 Views
An animated WoT movie drawn by Sweet? Fanatic-Templar - 06/05/2010 02:59:23 AM 903 Views
Re: An animated WoT movie drawn by Sweet? saidarisnowtainted - 06/05/2010 03:31:13 AM 941 Views
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