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See THEOLOGY for Reason in support of Faith. *NM* Arok Manok - 13/04/2004 11:53:43 AM

This is a snide comment with no worth.

If you think there's evidence, then you're not talking about the same issue Arok and I are talking about, namely faith and reason. If you think there's evidence, then you're not having faith.

No. But I WILL keep in mind that people of all sorts of religions think their prayers are answered, and some people think their "magick spells" work, and so on. Unless you can demonstrate that God is actually in fact answering prayers, something which nobody's done, coincidentally, I'm not going to accept your "I prayed and it happened!" as evidence of a god, much less YOUR god, of course.

How so? I don't believe anything without evidence... and yet, my life isn't sad. Life isn't about "things and forces you can't understand or control", and I don't know where you got the idea. It's about whatever you want it to be about.

Science can't say that Undetectable Gremlins of Car Failure responsible for all car failures don't exist.

You don't assume something's true until it's disproven. That makes you sense--you can't prove an existential negative, anyway. You can't disprove those gremlins, or Santa. What IS reasonable is NOT assuming something is true until it's evidenced.

Science can't say that you're wrong because "there is a god" is not a testable hypothesis. It's not a scientific concept. But you can and should apply *reason* to figuring out if it's true.


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Re: Please note - 12/04/2004 01:45:31 AM 15 Views
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A snide response. - 12/04/2004 09:13:12 PM 14 Views
But there IS evidence. Just not published in Science journals. - 13/04/2004 05:12:40 AM 14 Views
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Re: You can't prove existential negatives. - 13/04/2004 04:34:02 PM 9 Views
See THEOLOGY for Reason in support of Faith. *NM* - 13/04/2004 11:53:43 AM 7 Views
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