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Re: See, I liked Arkady Legolas Send a noteboard - 18/10/2010 10:51:59 PM
And maybe my impression isn't accurate, but he fit into the slot between the Nikolay/Pavel and Bazarov characters. He helped break down what I initially hated about Bazarov, because we see his process of learning that he can't get to Bazarov's state. And he's still young, so his "spongeness" seems natural, rather than existing because simply he doesn't have a mind of his own.

Agreed.
To be honest, I didn't get the sense at all that Katya was uninteresting. She was overshadowed by Anna, and Arkady got to "find" her, so to speak. Same way he learned not to take everything Bazarov said by rote. I do agree that Arkady was the thinking everyman, and I felt that that was what Turgenev thought a man should grow into.

And agreed here as well. Bazarov's initial view of Katya wasn't necessarily more accurate than his other views. Certainly, Katya's personality isn't really fleshed out much, but then neither is Arkady's, but she didn't seem uninteresting or unintelligent to me. Just a bit shy and overshadowed by her sister, but less in denial and more able to admit to her feelings.
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