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(minor book seven spoilers) Legolas Send a noteboard - 19/10/2010 11:27:53 AM
The Other Minister: I love, love, love this chapter. I think it is a clever way to present the recap and I love viewing all this from the view of the Prime Minister. The recounting of Fudge's first visit when he gave away the gerbil to try to forget about it makes me laugh every time. I love the Prime Minister's responses to everything. And Fudge is more likable here than in any other book in the series, IMHO. We're introduced to Scrimgeour, who apart from being quite brusque I like very much at this point, although this won't last. I love Fudge's line as he leaves that the other side can do magic too.

Yes, I noticed that too. One can see why Fudge did okay as a Minister until the chips started falling - he has this somewhat condescending but quite amiable way with people, very Minister-y.

It's a bit of a shame there's no follow-up to this that I can remember, though, the Muggles are ignored again from here on out...
Spinner's End: I finally start to respect Narcissa here a little. I don't really understand her, whether she is a supporter of Voldemort's of her own volition or if she is simply following Lucius in the beginning until Voldemort goes after Draco, but she has gone all mamma bear now and I like that. I have no idea why Snape lives in his parent's old house considering how miserable he was there, but I love Snape in this chapter. I love how he is so kindly to Narcissa but lays into Bellatrix when she continues to interrupt the conversation. Part of me wishes I felt sorry for Wormtail, but I can't say that I do. I do feel sorry for the fox though, which is really kind of messed up when I think about it.

I think she and Lucius are actually pretty much on the same page - they are very alike in many ways, down to the hair colour. They were both brought up in Dark pureblood families, with the notion that they were better than most everyone else, and so they chose Voldemort's side, but never with the fanaticism or fervour that some of the others had. At the end of the day they're opportunists, moving with the flow. And because they care more about each other and about Draco than about their ideology, they end up on the good side in the end, more or less.

Bellatrix of course is the other extreme, she obviously has some affection for her sister, but other than that she's pretty much a psychopath, as is clear from her statements about sacrificing any sons she might have to Voldemort. Though of course Azkaban might have had a lot to do with that. I felt sorry for the fox, too, but it fits Bellatrix well: the paranoid and trigger-happy mentality, and her total lack of uneasiness about the AK.
Will and Won't: One of my favorite chapters of the series. Dumbledore messing with the Dursley's is awesome. I think now that he knows his days are numbered he feels a certain amount of freedom about calling things like he sees them. One of the defining aspects of Dumbledore's character is his focus on being polite at all times, while here he is still polite he is "instructing" them throughout this chapter and I think it's brilliant. I won't quote all the lines here, but his exchanges are full of wonderful one liners. I love the glasses bouncing off the Dursley's heads (and a subtle introduction to the fact that Dumbledore likes that mead for later in the book). And then he gets so serious. It really has a lot more gravity because we've been laughing our way through the situation until now. He really lets them have it with both barrels while remaining calm. No one has really called them out yet and it is beautiful. This is a defining Dumbledore chapter, and you really walk away with the impression of his power and the fact that he just gets things.

Yeah, the closing line especially was brilliant, as Camilla said. Good catch about the mead. As for the Dursleys sermon, yes, but I still have a somewhat uneasy feeling about the whole thing because of what I noted in the previous book - that their initial treatment of him was so over the top that it worked in a children's book, but feels off when the series grows to more adult levels. The Dursleys are made a bit more human in these later books, you sometimes feel sorry for them or see where they're coming from, but then there's that cupboard under the stairs thing that keeps making that difficult. I don't know, it bothers me.

With regard to your closing sentence, I find it interesting that you make that observation - which I don't disagree with - right after we'd agreed at the end of book five that Dumbledore's infallibility had ended for good with Sirius' death and his failure to keep Voldemort from possessing Harry. That was the end of Dumbledore the demi-god, this is the beginning of Dumbledore the kick-ass but quite human hero. If that makes any sense.
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The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Book Six, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince - 18/10/2010 06:12:40 PM 3150 Views
General comments on the book. - 18/10/2010 06:14:10 PM 1805 Views
I am enjoying this a lot more than I thought I would. - 22/10/2010 07:25:17 PM 1929 Views
Yes, I'm loving that I can read in English again. - 22/10/2010 10:10:32 PM 2026 Views
Me too - 01/11/2010 02:11:28 PM 1788 Views
Suggestions. - 18/10/2010 06:18:46 PM 1834 Views
Re: Suggestions. - 20/10/2010 03:20:18 PM 1996 Views
*cough* - 09/11/2010 09:24:21 AM 1716 Views
Oh yes. I'm being distracted by Towers of Midnight. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:11:22 PM 1080 Views
Shocking. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:43 PM 1022 Views
Are we having a break right now? - 12/11/2010 06:48:10 PM 1884 Views
Re: Are we having a break right now? - 12/11/2010 10:05:30 PM 2184 Views
Chapters 1-3: The Other Minister, Spinner's End, Will and Won't. - 18/10/2010 06:21:55 PM 2065 Views
Characters: The three Ministers, Snape, Narcissa, Bellatrix, Harry, Dumbledore, the Dursleys. - 18/10/2010 06:25:12 PM 2071 Views
Re: Characters: The three Ministers, Snape, Narcissa, Bellatrix, Harry, Dumbledore, the Dursleys. - 18/10/2010 06:55:06 PM 2076 Views
(minor book seven spoilers) - 19/10/2010 11:27:53 AM 2029 Views
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*spoilers for book 7* an assortment of characters - 19/10/2010 01:01:35 AM 2032 Views
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Re: *spoilers for book 7* an assortment of characters - 19/10/2010 11:48:45 AM 2120 Views
I rather enjoyed the new characters. - 22/10/2010 07:30:03 PM 1816 Views
Re: I rather enjoyed the new characters. - 22/10/2010 08:33:44 PM 1932 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 18/10/2010 06:28:16 PM 941 Views
Dumbledore-centered. - 19/10/2010 01:03:05 AM 1959 Views
Re: Dumbledore-centered. - 22/10/2010 07:31:56 PM 1909 Views
Re: Dumbledore-centered. - 22/10/2010 07:33:34 PM 1893 Views
Chapters 4-6: Horace Slughorn, An Excess of Phlegm, Draco's Detour. *NM* - 20/10/2010 03:44:39 PM 1085 Views
Characters: Slughorn, Fleur, the Trio, Draco and Narcissa Malfoy,... - 20/10/2010 03:46:47 PM 1989 Views
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(Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 20/10/2010 09:25:20 PM 2051 Views
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Re: (Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 21/10/2010 12:04:23 AM 1562 Views
Re: (Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 20/10/2010 10:20:28 PM 1952 Views
Re: (Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 20/10/2010 11:23:38 PM 1820 Views
Re: Characters: Slughorn, Fleur, the Trio, Draco and Narcissa Malfoy,... - 20/10/2010 10:15:58 PM 1976 Views
On Ron's reaction to Fleur... - 20/10/2010 11:30:48 PM 1900 Views
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Fleur - 23/10/2010 05:11:08 PM 1778 Views
Dumbledore, Slughorn, Tonks, Mr & Mrs Weasley, Hermione, Narcissa and the twins. - 20/10/2010 09:23:04 PM 1850 Views
Characters. - 25/10/2010 03:10:35 AM 1782 Views
Plotting and writing. - 20/10/2010 03:47:55 PM 1879 Views
*minor spoilers for book 7* - 20/10/2010 09:23:44 PM 1923 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 20/10/2010 03:48:07 PM 939 Views
Dumbledore's Stephen Fry moment... or maybe that's just me. - 22/10/2010 07:35:59 PM 1713 Views
It's not just you - 22/10/2010 08:34:25 PM 1722 Views
Chapters 7-9: Slug Club, Snape Victorious, The Half-Blood Prince *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:03 PM 1085 Views
Characters *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:24 PM 1027 Views
Harry, Romilda, Malfoy (in luuuve), Snape, Lavender Brown, McGonagall, Hermione and Slughorn. - 22/10/2010 07:26:19 PM 1980 Views
Thoughts about your thoughts. - 23/10/2010 05:28:10 PM 1748 Views
Re: Thoughts about your thoughts. - 24/10/2010 09:18:37 AM 1766 Views
More characters. - 25/10/2010 03:21:33 AM 1756 Views
Re: More characters. - 25/10/2010 10:27:33 AM 1769 Views
Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 07:54:35 PM 1924 Views
Re: Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 09:04:24 PM 1862 Views
Re: Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 09:54:46 PM 1782 Views
Slytherin had been in need of new blood for a long time. (And assorted other comments.) - 22/10/2010 10:34:49 PM 1941 Views
Neville. - 23/10/2010 05:30:39 PM 1842 Views
Re: Neville. - 08/11/2010 02:35:57 PM 1934 Views
NEWT Potions - 24/10/2010 03:24:42 AM 1920 Views
Re: Characters - 24/10/2010 03:41:30 AM 1972 Views
Re: Characters - 25/10/2010 10:44:00 AM 1799 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:37 PM 1024 Views
Dumbledore, patronuses and the DADA job. - 22/10/2010 07:27:23 PM 1879 Views
Malfoy and the DADA job. - 22/10/2010 10:51:03 PM 1781 Views
Re: Malfoy and the DADA job. - 25/10/2010 11:31:57 AM 1821 Views
Re: Dumbledore, patronuses and the DADA job. - 23/10/2010 05:32:27 PM 1774 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:50 PM 1041 Views
I believe in Wrackspurts, too. And some questions. - 22/10/2010 07:28:04 PM 1736 Views
Re: I believe in Wrackspurts, too. And some questions. - 23/10/2010 05:33:27 PM 1839 Views
Re: I believe in Wrackspurts, too. And some questions. - 25/10/2010 03:06:43 AM 1824 Views
Chapters 10-12: The House of Gaunt, Hermione's Helping Hand, Silver and Opals. *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:00:02 PM 1082 Views
Characters: The Gaunts, the Trio, Hagrid, and many more. *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:02:07 PM 1047 Views
Harry's continued insistence about Malfoy really irritates me (even though he's right). - 25/10/2010 06:15:23 PM 2034 Views
*lol* - 25/10/2010 06:39:19 PM 1863 Views
I don't hide from my faults. - 25/10/2010 08:01:39 PM 1703 Views
Re: I don't hide from my faults. - 28/10/2010 04:59:54 AM 1888 Views
Re: *lol* - 26/10/2010 09:50:09 AM 1851 Views
~geeky moment~ - 26/10/2010 03:14:52 PM 1760 Views
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Trelawny, Ogden, Gaunt, Ron, Hermione, Ron and Harry - 25/10/2010 10:23:55 PM 1783 Views
Re: Trelawny, Ogden, Gaunt, Ron, Hermione, Ron and Harry - 26/10/2010 11:56:59 PM 1905 Views
Re: Trelawny, Ogden, Gaunt, Ron, Hermione, Ron and Harry - 27/10/2010 08:14:42 AM 1890 Views
Plotting and writing. - 25/10/2010 05:03:16 PM 1871 Views
Amazing amounts of accurate guesswork here, in hindsight. - 25/10/2010 05:37:28 PM 1909 Views
Re: Amazing amounts of accurate guesswork here, in hindsight. - 26/10/2010 09:46:47 AM 1800 Views
The smuggling and Trelawney's rambling. - 27/10/2010 12:05:48 AM 1856 Views
Re: The smuggling and Trelawney's rambling. - 27/10/2010 08:10:46 AM 1781 Views
Things - 25/10/2010 10:24:19 PM 1903 Views
Re: Things - 27/10/2010 12:01:17 AM 1910 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:03:32 PM 855 Views
Dumbledore still sounds like Stephen Fry. And reflections on the nature of Potions class. - 25/10/2010 05:11:24 PM 1740 Views
It's like baking, I think. - 25/10/2010 05:32:42 PM 1841 Views
Good analogy - 25/10/2010 05:52:38 PM 1706 Views
Yes, exactly like baking - and advanced baking involves experimenting, substituting, improvising. - 25/10/2010 06:42:42 PM 1942 Views
But not at high school. - 25/10/2010 07:57:44 PM 1829 Views
Also - 04/11/2010 09:29:47 AM 1770 Views
Also, Parseltongue - is Harry that thick, or is it a magic thing? - 25/10/2010 05:18:41 PM 1810 Views
I think it's a magic thing. - 25/10/2010 05:34:09 PM 1811 Views
It can be learned actually. Dumbledore implies he knows it and Ron uses it in book 7 - 25/10/2010 05:55:28 PM 1780 Views
Huh. I completely missed that. Good thing we're doing a reread. - 25/10/2010 05:57:38 PM 1803 Views
Speaking of Dumbledore and Parseltongue. - 28/10/2010 05:03:10 AM 2072 Views
parseltongue - 25/10/2010 10:24:46 PM 1946 Views
Interesting how many of our remarks are along similar lines. *NM* - 25/10/2010 10:27:30 PM 910 Views
Indeed - 26/10/2010 09:20:43 AM 1824 Views
Chapters 13-15: The Secret Riddle, Felix Felicis, The Unbreakable Vow *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:16:28 PM 1031 Views
Characters: The Trio, Ginny, Tom Riddle, Draco,... *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:12 PM 1015 Views
Dumbledore, Voldemort, Ron & Hermione, Harry, Ginny, Luna - 27/10/2010 10:31:39 PM 1855 Views
My take on Ginny is rather different, I must say... at least this time around. - 29/10/2010 01:47:20 PM 1772 Views
Girls. - 29/10/2010 05:54:25 PM 1822 Views
Draco: Not as confident as he appears, surely. - 29/10/2010 02:02:01 PM 1951 Views
Re: Draco: Not as confident as he appears, surely. - 29/10/2010 09:01:56 PM 1954 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:26 PM 821 Views
plot and writing. - 27/10/2010 10:30:14 PM 1842 Views
Re: plot and writing. - 28/10/2010 05:07:03 AM 1984 Views
Draco can dissemble rather well, just like his parents. - 29/10/2010 02:08:35 PM 1849 Views
Re: Draco can dissemble rather well, just like his parents. - 29/10/2010 09:00:36 PM 1880 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:42 PM 873 Views
Re: Anything else? - 27/10/2010 10:30:55 PM 1980 Views
Re: Anything else? - 28/10/2010 04:56:10 AM 1908 Views
Harry comments on that when in Snape's memories in book five. - 28/10/2010 10:42:08 AM 1771 Views
I wonder if that's actually true, though. - 28/10/2010 10:39:20 AM 1977 Views
Re: I wonder if that's actually true, though. - 28/10/2010 10:44:22 AM 1832 Views
It's more than that, though. - 28/10/2010 10:55:49 AM 1899 Views
Re: It's more than that, though. - 28/10/2010 11:48:19 AM 1714 Views
Chapters 16-18: A Very Frosty Christmas, A Sluggish Memory, Birthday Surprises *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:40:39 PM 1019 Views
Characters: The Trio, Fleur, Scrimgeour, Percy, Remus, Slughorn,... *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:43:02 PM 1090 Views
Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 08:51:58 PM 1978 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 11:24:02 PM 1800 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 11:51:06 PM 1819 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 31/10/2010 09:14:46 PM 2033 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 31/10/2010 09:07:19 PM 1912 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 02/11/2010 06:23:04 PM 1857 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 02/11/2010 07:20:26 PM 1544 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 04/11/2010 04:03:02 AM 1806 Views
And - 04/11/2010 10:46:37 AM 1799 Views
Plotting and writing. - 29/10/2010 05:43:49 PM 1765 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 29/10/2010 08:52:34 PM 1892 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:44:04 PM 904 Views
My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. - 29/10/2010 11:28:43 PM 1809 Views
Re: My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. - 29/10/2010 11:52:12 PM 1881 Views
Chapters 19-21: Elf Tails, Lord Voldemort's Requests, The Unknowable Room *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:00:22 PM 796 Views
Characters: The Trio, the elves, Draco, Dumbledore,... *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:00:56 PM 1145 Views
the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 02:08:32 PM 1699 Views
Re: the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 05:10:11 PM 1937 Views
Re: the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 05:16:30 PM 2032 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:01:13 PM 905 Views
Dumbledore, little girls and the house-elf issue again. - 01/11/2010 02:09:35 PM 2038 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:01:27 PM 916 Views
Chapters 22-24: After the Burial, Horcruxes, Sectumsempra - 03/11/2010 09:50:17 PM 2092 Views
Characters. *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:50:33 PM 1053 Views
Malfoy, Ron & Hermione, Slughorn, Voldemort, Snape and Ginny. - 04/11/2010 12:12:57 AM 1854 Views
Draco, Slughorn, Snape, the romance. - 04/11/2010 02:02:04 PM 1885 Views
Re: Draco, Slughorn, Snape, the romance. - 04/11/2010 02:16:17 PM 1922 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:50:50 PM 927 Views
Harry wrong again, house elves, horcruxes, free will, well hidden clues and some irony *DH spoiler* - 03/11/2010 10:35:20 PM 1825 Views
Re: Stuff. - 04/11/2010 04:28:04 AM 1880 Views
Re: Stuff. *spoilers for book 7* - 04/11/2010 09:10:19 AM 1928 Views
This "we'll see in book seven" thing is getting old, but still that's what I have to say here... - 04/11/2010 01:23:01 PM 1711 Views
Yes, I think you are right - 04/11/2010 01:24:41 PM 1889 Views
Well, I'm back. Some comments inside. *DH Spoilers* - 08/11/2010 02:28:11 PM 1896 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:51:04 PM 923 Views
Chapters 25-27: The Seer Overheard, The Cave, The Lightning-Struck Tower - 05/11/2010 05:37:42 PM 1709 Views
Plotting and writing. - 05/11/2010 05:39:27 PM 1550 Views
*spoilers for book 7* - 05/11/2010 07:55:07 PM 1759 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 05/11/2010 05:39:43 PM 934 Views
I like how good magic is not flashy. Also, a Tolkien thing - 05/11/2010 07:55:27 PM 1815 Views
I didn't take the comparison as far, but the gate thing did remind me of Moria, yes. (DH spoilers) - 05/11/2010 10:03:16 PM 2056 Views
yes - 05/11/2010 10:06:43 PM 1781 Views
Chapters 28-30: Flight of the Prince, The Phoenix Lament, The White Tomb. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:12 PM 1054 Views
Characters. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:25 PM 882 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:40 PM 1009 Views
Spoilers. - 09/11/2010 02:26:38 PM 1743 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 09/11/2010 04:49:06 PM 1800 Views
I'm assuming not even the Ministry knows 100% what she did. - 13/11/2010 12:26:14 AM 1877 Views
Very true. - 15/11/2010 01:48:36 PM 1876 Views
Not much, no, but there's one fairly crucial mention. - 15/11/2010 04:37:23 PM 1848 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 13/11/2010 12:22:22 AM 2016 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 13/11/2010 09:38:09 AM 2141 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:53 PM 899 Views
We did the Harry Potter marathon thing on Sunday - 09/11/2010 02:28:08 PM 1862 Views
I vaguely remember something of the sort, yes. - 09/11/2010 02:57:56 PM 2099 Views
Re: I vaguely remember something of the sort, yes. - 09/11/2010 02:58:56 PM 1752 Views
This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. - 09/11/2010 04:34:33 PM 1909 Views
Re: This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. - 09/11/2010 04:36:29 PM 1857 Views
Very true. - 09/11/2010 04:40:24 PM 2091 Views
Re: Very true. - 09/11/2010 04:43:45 PM 2346 Views
Agreed. - 09/11/2010 04:53:46 PM 1892 Views
Re: Agreed. - 09/11/2010 04:58:59 PM 1971 Views

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