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Re: (Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... Seriana Sedai Send a noteboard - 21/10/2010 12:04:23 AM
I was trying to think of a way to say the same thing, the not malevolently racist bit, but couldn't come up with anything. It's like a general attitude he has but he doesn't hold to it when someone is gifted like Lily or Dirk Creswell. I find it odd.

I think it's not really odd, quite realistic in fact. Just think of all the racists who make exceptions for their personal friends.

Dumbledore refers to his "considerable talents" and I think Slughorn is aware that he may be useful to Voldemort. Do you think this is arrogance on Slughorn's part or an astute observation and reaction?

I think he certainly might be useful to Voldemort, but still it's interesting that he'd think he would be among Voldemort's first priorities, and that Voldemort would risk blowing his cover (well, to the extent he still has a cover). What I also want to know is what he did during the previous war - evidently he never became a DE, but did he spend all that time running away so they could never try to recruit him, too?

That's a good question. Was Slughorn still teaching at Hogwarts during the last war? He taught Lily, so probably, which makes me think that Slughorn was safe at the school during the last war. Pure speculation though.

See, now I adore Ginny, but I think she's really unfair. I think Fleur is trying in the beginning and then as she gets the attitude she stops trying as hard (the Christmas radio broadcast comes to mind, hardly her most endearing chapter). I never understood why everyone was so shocked that she still wants to marry Bill by the end, if anything I'd think she'd want to call it off before to get away from a family that doesn't want her.

*I* think Ginny is unfair, too, but I'm not sure if Rowling does, which was my point about not being sure what to infer. And yes, agreed - I'm not sure if any reader really would've expected Fleur to go "no, I can't marry him anymore". She's shown a long time ago that she has her priorities straight.

Ahhh, gotcha.

I felt badly for her briefly after the Lucius remark, until she hits back just as hard about Harry being reunited with Sirius.

Heh, yes.

I didn't phrase that as well as I would have liked...I'll blame a lack of coffee. ;) I meant how Mrs. Weasley has always wanted them to be more like Percy and being disappointed with their behavior. It provides a nice counterpoint to this to see them be successful and later showing their mother how much they appreciate her. I think they are great sons.

Oh, yeah, I was glad to see her come around, too.

That's exactly it! He's right in the next book too about something big...so that's the second time a day, right? ;)

Indeed. I suppose it makes sense that he gets to be right more often later on in the books, older and wiser and all... but every once in a while he still has to get things totally and utterly wrong to not make the reader wonder who this guy is and what he's done with Harry Potter.

That made me laugh, because you're so right. :D
He's starting to come around in this book, getting more and more stuff right and I think he keeps it pretty clean in the next book. Not perfect, but like you said we need to recognize Harry!
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The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Book Six, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince - 18/10/2010 06:12:40 PM 3106 Views
General comments on the book. - 18/10/2010 06:14:10 PM 1764 Views
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Yes, I'm loving that I can read in English again. - 22/10/2010 10:10:32 PM 1986 Views
Me too - 01/11/2010 02:11:28 PM 1744 Views
Suggestions. - 18/10/2010 06:18:46 PM 1794 Views
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*cough* - 09/11/2010 09:24:21 AM 1676 Views
Oh yes. I'm being distracted by Towers of Midnight. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:11:22 PM 1054 Views
Shocking. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:43 PM 997 Views
Are we having a break right now? - 12/11/2010 06:48:10 PM 1842 Views
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Chapters 1-3: The Other Minister, Spinner's End, Will and Won't. - 18/10/2010 06:21:55 PM 2029 Views
Characters: The three Ministers, Snape, Narcissa, Bellatrix, Harry, Dumbledore, the Dursleys. - 18/10/2010 06:25:12 PM 2028 Views
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(minor book seven spoilers) - 19/10/2010 11:27:53 AM 1997 Views
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*spoilers for book 7* an assortment of characters - 19/10/2010 01:01:35 AM 1988 Views
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I rather enjoyed the new characters. - 22/10/2010 07:30:03 PM 1774 Views
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Anything else? *NM* - 18/10/2010 06:28:16 PM 911 Views
Dumbledore-centered. - 19/10/2010 01:03:05 AM 1909 Views
Re: Dumbledore-centered. - 22/10/2010 07:31:56 PM 1871 Views
Re: Dumbledore-centered. - 22/10/2010 07:33:34 PM 1857 Views
Chapters 4-6: Horace Slughorn, An Excess of Phlegm, Draco's Detour. *NM* - 20/10/2010 03:44:39 PM 1060 Views
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(Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 20/10/2010 09:25:20 PM 2001 Views
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On Ron's reaction to Fleur... - 20/10/2010 11:30:48 PM 1860 Views
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Dumbledore, Slughorn, Tonks, Mr & Mrs Weasley, Hermione, Narcissa and the twins. - 20/10/2010 09:23:04 PM 1813 Views
Characters. - 25/10/2010 03:10:35 AM 1736 Views
Plotting and writing. - 20/10/2010 03:47:55 PM 1852 Views
*minor spoilers for book 7* - 20/10/2010 09:23:44 PM 1889 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 20/10/2010 03:48:07 PM 912 Views
Dumbledore's Stephen Fry moment... or maybe that's just me. - 22/10/2010 07:35:59 PM 1682 Views
It's not just you - 22/10/2010 08:34:25 PM 1671 Views
Chapters 7-9: Slug Club, Snape Victorious, The Half-Blood Prince *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:03 PM 1058 Views
Characters *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:24 PM 1005 Views
Harry, Romilda, Malfoy (in luuuve), Snape, Lavender Brown, McGonagall, Hermione and Slughorn. - 22/10/2010 07:26:19 PM 1935 Views
Thoughts about your thoughts. - 23/10/2010 05:28:10 PM 1701 Views
Re: Thoughts about your thoughts. - 24/10/2010 09:18:37 AM 1716 Views
More characters. - 25/10/2010 03:21:33 AM 1710 Views
Re: More characters. - 25/10/2010 10:27:33 AM 1735 Views
Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 07:54:35 PM 1877 Views
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Re: Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 09:54:46 PM 1752 Views
Slytherin had been in need of new blood for a long time. (And assorted other comments.) - 22/10/2010 10:34:49 PM 1906 Views
Neville. - 23/10/2010 05:30:39 PM 1794 Views
Re: Neville. - 08/11/2010 02:35:57 PM 1880 Views
NEWT Potions - 24/10/2010 03:24:42 AM 1869 Views
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Plotting and writing. *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:37 PM 1001 Views
Dumbledore, patronuses and the DADA job. - 22/10/2010 07:27:23 PM 1842 Views
Malfoy and the DADA job. - 22/10/2010 10:51:03 PM 1738 Views
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Re: Dumbledore, patronuses and the DADA job. - 23/10/2010 05:32:27 PM 1738 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:50 PM 1014 Views
I believe in Wrackspurts, too. And some questions. - 22/10/2010 07:28:04 PM 1695 Views
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Chapters 10-12: The House of Gaunt, Hermione's Helping Hand, Silver and Opals. *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:00:02 PM 1057 Views
Characters: The Gaunts, the Trio, Hagrid, and many more. *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:02:07 PM 1032 Views
Harry's continued insistence about Malfoy really irritates me (even though he's right). - 25/10/2010 06:15:23 PM 1979 Views
*lol* - 25/10/2010 06:39:19 PM 1821 Views
I don't hide from my faults. - 25/10/2010 08:01:39 PM 1663 Views
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~geeky moment~ - 26/10/2010 03:14:52 PM 1717 Views
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Trelawny, Ogden, Gaunt, Ron, Hermione, Ron and Harry - 25/10/2010 10:23:55 PM 1744 Views
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Plotting and writing. - 25/10/2010 05:03:16 PM 1833 Views
Amazing amounts of accurate guesswork here, in hindsight. - 25/10/2010 05:37:28 PM 1864 Views
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The smuggling and Trelawney's rambling. - 27/10/2010 12:05:48 AM 1815 Views
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Things - 25/10/2010 10:24:19 PM 1849 Views
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Anything else? *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:03:32 PM 837 Views
Dumbledore still sounds like Stephen Fry. And reflections on the nature of Potions class. - 25/10/2010 05:11:24 PM 1686 Views
It's like baking, I think. - 25/10/2010 05:32:42 PM 1804 Views
Good analogy - 25/10/2010 05:52:38 PM 1664 Views
Yes, exactly like baking - and advanced baking involves experimenting, substituting, improvising. - 25/10/2010 06:42:42 PM 1888 Views
But not at high school. - 25/10/2010 07:57:44 PM 1783 Views
Also - 04/11/2010 09:29:47 AM 1732 Views
Also, Parseltongue - is Harry that thick, or is it a magic thing? - 25/10/2010 05:18:41 PM 1783 Views
I think it's a magic thing. - 25/10/2010 05:34:09 PM 1776 Views
It can be learned actually. Dumbledore implies he knows it and Ron uses it in book 7 - 25/10/2010 05:55:28 PM 1730 Views
Huh. I completely missed that. Good thing we're doing a reread. - 25/10/2010 05:57:38 PM 1754 Views
Speaking of Dumbledore and Parseltongue. - 28/10/2010 05:03:10 AM 2035 Views
parseltongue - 25/10/2010 10:24:46 PM 1899 Views
Interesting how many of our remarks are along similar lines. *NM* - 25/10/2010 10:27:30 PM 890 Views
Indeed - 26/10/2010 09:20:43 AM 1778 Views
Chapters 13-15: The Secret Riddle, Felix Felicis, The Unbreakable Vow *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:16:28 PM 1013 Views
Characters: The Trio, Ginny, Tom Riddle, Draco,... *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:12 PM 997 Views
Dumbledore, Voldemort, Ron & Hermione, Harry, Ginny, Luna - 27/10/2010 10:31:39 PM 1792 Views
My take on Ginny is rather different, I must say... at least this time around. - 29/10/2010 01:47:20 PM 1732 Views
Girls. - 29/10/2010 05:54:25 PM 1772 Views
Draco: Not as confident as he appears, surely. - 29/10/2010 02:02:01 PM 1918 Views
Re: Draco: Not as confident as he appears, surely. - 29/10/2010 09:01:56 PM 1902 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:26 PM 807 Views
plot and writing. - 27/10/2010 10:30:14 PM 1796 Views
Re: plot and writing. - 28/10/2010 05:07:03 AM 1953 Views
Draco can dissemble rather well, just like his parents. - 29/10/2010 02:08:35 PM 1811 Views
Re: Draco can dissemble rather well, just like his parents. - 29/10/2010 09:00:36 PM 1835 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:42 PM 849 Views
Re: Anything else? - 27/10/2010 10:30:55 PM 1943 Views
Re: Anything else? - 28/10/2010 04:56:10 AM 1876 Views
Harry comments on that when in Snape's memories in book five. - 28/10/2010 10:42:08 AM 1734 Views
I wonder if that's actually true, though. - 28/10/2010 10:39:20 AM 1927 Views
Re: I wonder if that's actually true, though. - 28/10/2010 10:44:22 AM 1788 Views
It's more than that, though. - 28/10/2010 10:55:49 AM 1846 Views
Re: It's more than that, though. - 28/10/2010 11:48:19 AM 1681 Views
Chapters 16-18: A Very Frosty Christmas, A Sluggish Memory, Birthday Surprises *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:40:39 PM 998 Views
Characters: The Trio, Fleur, Scrimgeour, Percy, Remus, Slughorn,... *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:43:02 PM 1078 Views
Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 08:51:58 PM 1926 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 11:24:02 PM 1755 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 11:51:06 PM 1776 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 31/10/2010 09:14:46 PM 1992 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 31/10/2010 09:07:19 PM 1860 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 02/11/2010 06:23:04 PM 1808 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 02/11/2010 07:20:26 PM 1511 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 04/11/2010 04:03:02 AM 1755 Views
And - 04/11/2010 10:46:37 AM 1759 Views
Plotting and writing. - 29/10/2010 05:43:49 PM 1695 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 29/10/2010 08:52:34 PM 1856 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:44:04 PM 881 Views
My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. - 29/10/2010 11:28:43 PM 1774 Views
Re: My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. - 29/10/2010 11:52:12 PM 1835 Views
Chapters 19-21: Elf Tails, Lord Voldemort's Requests, The Unknowable Room *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:00:22 PM 774 Views
Characters: The Trio, the elves, Draco, Dumbledore,... *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:00:56 PM 1119 Views
the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 02:08:32 PM 1660 Views
Re: the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 05:10:11 PM 1901 Views
Re: the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 05:16:30 PM 1987 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:01:13 PM 882 Views
Dumbledore, little girls and the house-elf issue again. - 01/11/2010 02:09:35 PM 1991 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:01:27 PM 899 Views
Chapters 22-24: After the Burial, Horcruxes, Sectumsempra - 03/11/2010 09:50:17 PM 2055 Views
Characters. *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:50:33 PM 1028 Views
Malfoy, Ron & Hermione, Slughorn, Voldemort, Snape and Ginny. - 04/11/2010 12:12:57 AM 1814 Views
Draco, Slughorn, Snape, the romance. - 04/11/2010 02:02:04 PM 1850 Views
Re: Draco, Slughorn, Snape, the romance. - 04/11/2010 02:16:17 PM 1877 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:50:50 PM 911 Views
Harry wrong again, house elves, horcruxes, free will, well hidden clues and some irony *DH spoiler* - 03/11/2010 10:35:20 PM 1793 Views
Re: Stuff. - 04/11/2010 04:28:04 AM 1841 Views
Re: Stuff. *spoilers for book 7* - 04/11/2010 09:10:19 AM 1877 Views
This "we'll see in book seven" thing is getting old, but still that's what I have to say here... - 04/11/2010 01:23:01 PM 1674 Views
Yes, I think you are right - 04/11/2010 01:24:41 PM 1853 Views
Well, I'm back. Some comments inside. *DH Spoilers* - 08/11/2010 02:28:11 PM 1849 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:51:04 PM 904 Views
Chapters 25-27: The Seer Overheard, The Cave, The Lightning-Struck Tower - 05/11/2010 05:37:42 PM 1668 Views
Plotting and writing. - 05/11/2010 05:39:27 PM 1514 Views
*spoilers for book 7* - 05/11/2010 07:55:07 PM 1720 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 05/11/2010 05:39:43 PM 916 Views
I like how good magic is not flashy. Also, a Tolkien thing - 05/11/2010 07:55:27 PM 1758 Views
I didn't take the comparison as far, but the gate thing did remind me of Moria, yes. (DH spoilers) - 05/11/2010 10:03:16 PM 2007 Views
yes - 05/11/2010 10:06:43 PM 1745 Views
Chapters 28-30: Flight of the Prince, The Phoenix Lament, The White Tomb. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:12 PM 1034 Views
Characters. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:25 PM 859 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:40 PM 988 Views
Spoilers. - 09/11/2010 02:26:38 PM 1703 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 09/11/2010 04:49:06 PM 1763 Views
I'm assuming not even the Ministry knows 100% what she did. - 13/11/2010 12:26:14 AM 1837 Views
Very true. - 15/11/2010 01:48:36 PM 1831 Views
Not much, no, but there's one fairly crucial mention. - 15/11/2010 04:37:23 PM 1811 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 13/11/2010 12:22:22 AM 1971 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 13/11/2010 09:38:09 AM 2102 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:53 PM 878 Views
We did the Harry Potter marathon thing on Sunday - 09/11/2010 02:28:08 PM 1808 Views
I vaguely remember something of the sort, yes. - 09/11/2010 02:57:56 PM 2053 Views
Re: I vaguely remember something of the sort, yes. - 09/11/2010 02:58:56 PM 1719 Views
This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. - 09/11/2010 04:34:33 PM 1863 Views
Re: This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. - 09/11/2010 04:36:29 PM 1816 Views
Very true. - 09/11/2010 04:40:24 PM 2062 Views
Re: Very true. - 09/11/2010 04:43:45 PM 2293 Views
Agreed. - 09/11/2010 04:53:46 PM 1843 Views
Re: Agreed. - 09/11/2010 04:58:59 PM 1929 Views

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