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Re: Stuff. Cockatiel of Doom Send a noteboard - 04/11/2010 04:28:04 AM
Huh. Adding the "Re:" to your subject line made it too long and gave me a nasty red message. Woe. So I changed it to "stuff".

Harry is back to his old self, assuming Malfoy's plan is not working based on his physical appearance.


Ah, well, he's been right about some things lately. It would be weird if that lasted too long.

House elves show up again in Slughorn's casual reference that he has had them taste all the bottles.


Yes. That was highly disturbing. And completely seemed in Slughorn's nature.

We learn of Horcruxes. And the number 7.


Which made me think that there are 7 years at Hogwarts and wizards and witches come of age at 17. Not that 17 has a lot to do with 7, but still.

It is very interesting that Dumbledore would say that as far as he knew no wizard had ever done more than rip his soul in two. This seems a little strange. Surely Grindewald or someone like that has killed more than two people? Of course, it does suggest the strong taboo of killing in the wizarding world. Perhaps he was just referring to the amount of horcruxes made, even if that is not what his words say.


I thought he was referring to horcruxes, not killing...

I am a little fascinated by this (the pacifist in me, perhaps). What of the people killed in battle by the good guys? I cannot remember who kills who, but if Mrs Weasley kills Bellatrix, is her soul broken in two? Would she regret it enough to heal it again? Or when Harry kills Voldemort...


The impression I got was that while killing is indeed a supreme act of evil and doesn't do your soul any favors, it doesn't actually split unless you are intending to use the killing to make a Horcrux. I could be completely off on that, though.

At any rate, we can start ticking off horcruxes (although if Voldemort split his soul in seven, shouldn't there be six horcruxes to begin with, then five left after he has used one of them to gain a life? Or is it a way of keeping the embodied soul suspended, so that it does not disappear when the body is killed? -- I was always a little unclear on that): the diary. One down, six to go. The ring. Two down...

So there are now four. And Voldemort.

The locket

The cup

Nagini

and Rowena Ravenclaw's tiara, if I am right?

And Harry?

Which brings us to ... 8?

I have always had trouble with this part of the books. Counting is not my strong suit, and I have a strong impression that Dumbeldore's counting is off here too. How does Harry fit in? Is he really a horcrux?


I have always been confused about this as well. Perhaps someone can enlighten us.

Anyway, the dicsussion in Dumbledore's office also clarifies why Draco is being punished. It is not just Lucius' failure, but his lack of care with the diary.


Indeed.

The discussion of prophecies is also interesting. If there are so many prophecies that do not come to pass, what is their importance? Are they the "most likely" scenario only? Are they triggered by being part of a series of events (Snape listening outside the door sets Trelawny off?) ... I am intrigued. At any rate, the power of choice is quite central again. While the presence of Prophecy had seemed to dampen it, that is here revoked.

We are also shown the hiding room version of the Room of Requirement, which will become important later. It is a little strange that he does not react to the Vanishing cabinet being there. After all, there is no reason why it should have to be hidden. Unless someone is up to no good. It is quite a well hidden clue, though. As is the tiara.


I don't know. I mean, he notices it there, but among all the other junk piled up, it's not too surprising that he doesn't place any particular importance to it.

And I really enjoy Harry defending the Prince against Hermione's suggestion that he might be bad. If only he knew he was so sure Snape was not a bad guy.


Hehe. I know. It's a good bit of writing.
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I'm assuming not even the Ministry knows 100% what she did. Legolas - 13/11/2010 12:26:14 AM 1966 Views
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Re: Very true. Camilla - 09/11/2010 04:43:45 PM 2413 Views
Agreed. StormCrow - 09/11/2010 04:53:46 PM 1943 Views
Re: Agreed. Camilla - 09/11/2010 04:58:59 PM 2041 Views
I just watched OotP again Saturday night... quite shocking there as well. Legolas - 15/11/2010 04:45:48 PM 2016 Views
Re: I just watched OotP again Saturday night... quite shocking there as well. Camilla - 15/11/2010 04:50:57 PM 1837 Views
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