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I disagree with your claim that there can be no value in translations. Camilla Send a noteboard - 09/11/2010 08:51:20 PM
If you had a beautiful little bookstore and could stock it with whatever you wanted, wouldn't you have a section devoted to poetry?

In how many languages? Most of my favorite poems aren't in English, despite English being my native language.


Don't you like any English-language poets?

Why is poetry important?

For the same reason other forms of literature are important?


And why is that?

Unless you read Spanish, Latin, or German, you couldn't read them as they ought to be read.


This is what I take issue with. Poetry is harder to translate, I agree. But it is no more impossible than any other piece of literature. The experience will always be different, but that is true of any reading even in the same language.
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Poetry: Novo - 08/11/2010 02:07:39 AM 1660 Views
Re: Poetry: Gaps - 08/11/2010 02:31:01 AM 1196 Views
Answers from someone indifferent. Darth_Katie - 08/11/2010 02:57:38 AM 1108 Views
Poetry nossy - 08/11/2010 03:17:15 AM 1187 Views
Re: Poetry: Larry - 08/11/2010 04:13:38 AM 1142 Views
This is why people dislike you. Dan - 09/11/2010 07:03:17 PM 1141 Views
Umm...I care? Larry - 09/11/2010 08:42:55 PM 1107 Views
Because you should care about being intelligent, rather than appearing to be intelligent. Dan - 09/11/2010 10:32:04 PM 1145 Views
Again, why would I care? Larry - 09/11/2010 10:38:21 PM 1151 Views
No one can make you care about being decent, or intelligent, or a viable member of the community. Dan - 09/11/2010 10:41:34 PM 1067 Views
I think it's rather pointless, to be honest. Larry - 09/11/2010 10:54:17 PM 1106 Views
Then why are you even here? Dan - 09/11/2010 10:59:49 PM 1059 Views
I don't know. I thought I'd see how long I could string you along. Larry - 09/11/2010 11:00:37 PM 992 Views
You're the one who doesn't care. Dan - 09/11/2010 11:02:11 PM 1030 Views
I care only as much as I care. What others think is irrelevant to that. Larry - 09/11/2010 11:04:15 PM 1041 Views
But you're still responding to me. Dan - 09/11/2010 11:05:37 PM 1095 Views
Because I'm stringing you out until you quit. Larry - 09/11/2010 11:10:18 PM 1127 Views
I'm not going to. I find this entertaining. Dan - 09/11/2010 11:12:27 PM 1089 Views
I do as well. It's fun pretending to be an asshole, I'll admit. Larry - 09/11/2010 11:17:34 PM 1067 Views
Come now, who's pretending? Dan - 09/11/2010 11:22:18 PM 1078 Views
That is officially the last one before I start editing and making them NM. *NM* Legolas - 09/11/2010 11:24:12 PM 504 Views
Word. *NM* *NM* Dan - 09/11/2010 11:29:37 PM 423 Views
Me, most of the time Larry - 09/11/2010 11:40:26 PM 1067 Views
Keep telling yourself that. *NM* Dan - 09/11/2010 11:46:34 PM 937 Views
Why would I? It's not something I think much about these days. Again, what others think is trivial. *NM* Larry - 10/11/2010 12:01:03 AM 527 Views
What about THE Other? *NM* Dan - 10/11/2010 12:16:53 AM 461 Views
I'm not going to quote Sartre here...this time. *NM* Larry - 10/11/2010 12:20:22 AM 459 Views
Are you 5? Camilla - 09/11/2010 11:14:26 PM 937 Views
See my original point. *NM* Dan - 09/11/2010 11:15:30 PM 455 Views
Nah Larry - 09/11/2010 11:15:48 PM 1183 Views
But you were asked about it originally. That was my point. Dan - 09/11/2010 11:23:25 PM 1004 Views
And I was evasive about it at the time. When pressed, I answered more fully. Larry - 09/11/2010 11:48:27 PM 1057 Views
Why be evasive? Dan - 10/11/2010 12:16:19 AM 1180 Views
Because I didn't want to spend an hour pulling out a few dozen books. Larry - 10/11/2010 12:19:55 AM 1180 Views
Ye gods. Could you people at the very, very least make your messages NM? Legolas - 09/11/2010 11:17:25 PM 1040 Views
But that takes the fun out of this! *NM* Larry - 09/11/2010 11:21:25 PM 494 Views
Re: Best one liner of the threadjack. Gaps - 10/11/2010 12:37:27 AM 1208 Views
I must say, I'm glad you all decided to play up when I was having an evening off. *NM* Rebekah - 10/11/2010 12:08:59 PM 470 Views
I disagree with your claim that there can be no value in translations. Camilla - 09/11/2010 08:51:20 PM 1061 Views
Not "no value", but "different value" is what I would argue Larry - 09/11/2010 09:55:54 PM 1136 Views
I don't disagree, but you can't possibly learn all languages, yet you can read translations of all. Legolas - 09/11/2010 10:56:58 PM 1137 Views
They are often necessary Larry - 09/11/2010 11:00:09 PM 1026 Views
My choice, hands down, is to ignore the poetry in languages I don't read. Tom - 10/11/2010 01:44:32 AM 1080 Views
An English translation of The Divine Comedy was pivotal to my conversion to Christianity. Joel - 10/11/2010 11:04:57 AM 995 Views
Dante has a lot to answer for. *NM* Camilla - 10/11/2010 08:21:19 PM 448 Views
Ah, but to whom...? Joel - 10/11/2010 09:17:16 PM 1024 Views
K. Ghavrel - 08/11/2010 04:35:56 AM 1215 Views
Re: K. Legolas - 08/11/2010 10:59:05 AM 983 Views
Nothing wrong with humorous redundancy! Ghavrel - 09/11/2010 01:10:02 AM 1023 Views
Ooh, good survey. I've been thinking for a while we needed more poetry discussion. Legolas - 08/11/2010 10:58:24 AM 1250 Views
I think you underestimate the number of translations of the Bible. Ghavrel - 09/11/2010 01:20:30 AM 1219 Views
Did they just translate logos as... life-light? Dan - 09/11/2010 07:14:28 PM 1105 Views
Yes. Yes, they did. *NM* Ghavrel - 09/11/2010 09:56:09 PM 414 Views
*sighs* Dan - 09/11/2010 10:28:49 PM 993 Views
My favourite translation of logos is "point of it all". (beat.) - 10/11/2010 05:12:05 PM 1372 Views
Interersting temeraire - 08/11/2010 05:14:41 PM 1115 Views
I can count the poems I enjoy on one hand. Two fingers, in fact. lord-of-shadow - 08/11/2010 06:05:22 PM 1099 Views
I think poetry is largely overrated. Palatine - 08/11/2010 06:12:59 PM 1183 Views
And you are basing this on extensive non-reading of poetry? *NM* Camilla - 09/11/2010 08:57:06 PM 392 Views
Basing what, exactly? But the short answer is, no. Palatine - 10/11/2010 05:48:28 PM 1124 Views
the problem is most good poets are dead and dead people tend to fail at marketing random thoughts - 08/11/2010 06:44:18 PM 1122 Views
Re: Poetry: Stephen - 08/11/2010 07:04:01 PM 1046 Views
I like some poetry, but by no means all. Camilla - 09/11/2010 12:28:41 AM 1234 Views
Now that you mention it, The Imperfect Enjoyment might rank among my favourite poems. *NM* Legolas - 09/11/2010 12:46:56 AM 453 Views
It is excellent Camilla - 09/11/2010 08:16:01 PM 1217 Views
Re: It is excellent Legolas - 09/11/2010 10:53:24 PM 1057 Views
Re: It is excellent Camilla - 09/11/2010 10:58:23 PM 1167 Views
Just remembered my favourite poem Stephen - 09/11/2010 10:50:03 PM 1157 Views
That is very nice *NM* Camilla - 09/11/2010 10:59:53 PM 549 Views
I'll answer this unnumbered survey. Tom - 10/11/2010 01:37:50 AM 1222 Views
Read: Poetry: Joel - 10/11/2010 12:08:42 PM 1153 Views
Re: Poetry: (beat.) - 10/11/2010 04:57:31 PM 1045 Views
Re: Nice Gaps - 11/11/2010 01:39:48 AM 1188 Views
Man. . . That voice? Yeah. He should be reading me stories every night. (beat.) - 11/11/2010 11:57:02 AM 1322 Views
Re: Man. . . That voice? Yeah. He should be reading me stories every night. Gaps - 12/11/2010 04:36:22 AM 2046 Views
I can't believe I forgot to mention Leonard Cohen. *NM* (beat.) - 12/11/2010 04:33:15 AM 449 Views
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