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I disagree with your claim that there can be no value in translations. Camilla Send a noteboard - 09/11/2010 08:51:20 PM
If you had a beautiful little bookstore and could stock it with whatever you wanted, wouldn't you have a section devoted to poetry?

In how many languages? Most of my favorite poems aren't in English, despite English being my native language.


Don't you like any English-language poets?

Why is poetry important?

For the same reason other forms of literature are important?


And why is that?

Unless you read Spanish, Latin, or German, you couldn't read them as they ought to be read.


This is what I take issue with. Poetry is harder to translate, I agree. But it is no more impossible than any other piece of literature. The experience will always be different, but that is true of any reading even in the same language.
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Answers from someone indifferent. Darth_Katie - 08/11/2010 02:57:38 AM 1000 Views
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This is why people dislike you. Dan - 09/11/2010 07:03:17 PM 1030 Views
Umm...I care? Larry - 09/11/2010 08:42:55 PM 1002 Views
Because you should care about being intelligent, rather than appearing to be intelligent. Dan - 09/11/2010 10:32:04 PM 1040 Views
Again, why would I care? Larry - 09/11/2010 10:38:21 PM 1053 Views
No one can make you care about being decent, or intelligent, or a viable member of the community. Dan - 09/11/2010 10:41:34 PM 964 Views
I think it's rather pointless, to be honest. Larry - 09/11/2010 10:54:17 PM 989 Views
Then why are you even here? Dan - 09/11/2010 10:59:49 PM 943 Views
I don't know. I thought I'd see how long I could string you along. Larry - 09/11/2010 11:00:37 PM 874 Views
You're the one who doesn't care. Dan - 09/11/2010 11:02:11 PM 918 Views
I care only as much as I care. What others think is irrelevant to that. Larry - 09/11/2010 11:04:15 PM 919 Views
But you're still responding to me. Dan - 09/11/2010 11:05:37 PM 988 Views
Because I'm stringing you out until you quit. Larry - 09/11/2010 11:10:18 PM 1031 Views
I'm not going to. I find this entertaining. Dan - 09/11/2010 11:12:27 PM 977 Views
I do as well. It's fun pretending to be an asshole, I'll admit. Larry - 09/11/2010 11:17:34 PM 944 Views
Come now, who's pretending? Dan - 09/11/2010 11:22:18 PM 971 Views
That is officially the last one before I start editing and making them NM. *NM* Legolas - 09/11/2010 11:24:12 PM 451 Views
Word. *NM* *NM* Dan - 09/11/2010 11:29:37 PM 363 Views
Me, most of the time Larry - 09/11/2010 11:40:26 PM 956 Views
Keep telling yourself that. *NM* Dan - 09/11/2010 11:46:34 PM 833 Views
Why would I? It's not something I think much about these days. Again, what others think is trivial. *NM* Larry - 10/11/2010 12:01:03 AM 476 Views
What about THE Other? *NM* Dan - 10/11/2010 12:16:53 AM 405 Views
I'm not going to quote Sartre here...this time. *NM* Larry - 10/11/2010 12:20:22 AM 405 Views
Are you 5? Camilla - 09/11/2010 11:14:26 PM 835 Views
See my original point. *NM* Dan - 09/11/2010 11:15:30 PM 400 Views
Nah Larry - 09/11/2010 11:15:48 PM 1088 Views
But you were asked about it originally. That was my point. Dan - 09/11/2010 11:23:25 PM 877 Views
And I was evasive about it at the time. When pressed, I answered more fully. Larry - 09/11/2010 11:48:27 PM 967 Views
Why be evasive? Dan - 10/11/2010 12:16:19 AM 1064 Views
Because I didn't want to spend an hour pulling out a few dozen books. Larry - 10/11/2010 12:19:55 AM 1079 Views
Ye gods. Could you people at the very, very least make your messages NM? Legolas - 09/11/2010 11:17:25 PM 936 Views
But that takes the fun out of this! *NM* Larry - 09/11/2010 11:21:25 PM 440 Views
Re: Best one liner of the threadjack. Gaps - 10/11/2010 12:37:27 AM 1086 Views
I must say, I'm glad you all decided to play up when I was having an evening off. *NM* Rebekah - 10/11/2010 12:08:59 PM 430 Views
I disagree with your claim that there can be no value in translations. Camilla - 09/11/2010 08:51:20 PM 946 Views
Not "no value", but "different value" is what I would argue Larry - 09/11/2010 09:55:54 PM 1027 Views
I don't disagree, but you can't possibly learn all languages, yet you can read translations of all. Legolas - 09/11/2010 10:56:58 PM 1027 Views
They are often necessary Larry - 09/11/2010 11:00:09 PM 916 Views
My choice, hands down, is to ignore the poetry in languages I don't read. Tom - 10/11/2010 01:44:32 AM 961 Views
An English translation of The Divine Comedy was pivotal to my conversion to Christianity. Joel - 10/11/2010 11:04:57 AM 876 Views
Dante has a lot to answer for. *NM* Camilla - 10/11/2010 08:21:19 PM 398 Views
Ah, but to whom...? Joel - 10/11/2010 09:17:16 PM 919 Views
K. Ghavrel - 08/11/2010 04:35:56 AM 1111 Views
Re: K. Legolas - 08/11/2010 10:59:05 AM 881 Views
Nothing wrong with humorous redundancy! Ghavrel - 09/11/2010 01:10:02 AM 929 Views
Ooh, good survey. I've been thinking for a while we needed more poetry discussion. Legolas - 08/11/2010 10:58:24 AM 1100 Views
I think you underestimate the number of translations of the Bible. Ghavrel - 09/11/2010 01:20:30 AM 1094 Views
Did they just translate logos as... life-light? Dan - 09/11/2010 07:14:28 PM 972 Views
Yes. Yes, they did. *NM* Ghavrel - 09/11/2010 09:56:09 PM 372 Views
*sighs* Dan - 09/11/2010 10:28:49 PM 855 Views
My favourite translation of logos is "point of it all". (beat.) - 10/11/2010 05:12:05 PM 1239 Views
Interersting temeraire - 08/11/2010 05:14:41 PM 1012 Views
I can count the poems I enjoy on one hand. Two fingers, in fact. lord-of-shadow - 08/11/2010 06:05:22 PM 1000 Views
I think poetry is largely overrated. Palatine - 08/11/2010 06:12:59 PM 1081 Views
And you are basing this on extensive non-reading of poetry? *NM* Camilla - 09/11/2010 08:57:06 PM 345 Views
Basing what, exactly? But the short answer is, no. Palatine - 10/11/2010 05:48:28 PM 1019 Views
the problem is most good poets are dead and dead people tend to fail at marketing random thoughts - 08/11/2010 06:44:18 PM 1022 Views
Re: Poetry: Stephen - 08/11/2010 07:04:01 PM 945 Views
I like some poetry, but by no means all. Camilla - 09/11/2010 12:28:41 AM 1113 Views
Now that you mention it, The Imperfect Enjoyment might rank among my favourite poems. *NM* Legolas - 09/11/2010 12:46:56 AM 394 Views
It is excellent Camilla - 09/11/2010 08:16:01 PM 1116 Views
Re: It is excellent Legolas - 09/11/2010 10:53:24 PM 955 Views
Re: It is excellent Camilla - 09/11/2010 10:58:23 PM 1057 Views
Just remembered my favourite poem Stephen - 09/11/2010 10:50:03 PM 1054 Views
That is very nice *NM* Camilla - 09/11/2010 10:59:53 PM 500 Views
I'll answer this unnumbered survey. Tom - 10/11/2010 01:37:50 AM 1096 Views
Read: Poetry: Joel - 10/11/2010 12:08:42 PM 1029 Views
Re: Poetry: (beat.) - 10/11/2010 04:57:31 PM 932 Views
Re: Nice Gaps - 11/11/2010 01:39:48 AM 1080 Views
Man. . . That voice? Yeah. He should be reading me stories every night. (beat.) - 11/11/2010 11:57:02 AM 1174 Views
Re: Man. . . That voice? Yeah. He should be reading me stories every night. Gaps - 12/11/2010 04:36:22 AM 1910 Views
I can't believe I forgot to mention Leonard Cohen. *NM* (beat.) - 12/11/2010 04:33:15 AM 400 Views
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