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My choice, hands down, is to ignore the poetry in languages I don't read. Tom Send a noteboard - 10/11/2010 01:44:32 AM
I'd rather not read it than read something that is a bad copy of the original. Poetry has as much to do with the SOUND of the combinations of words as it does with their meaning. Rhythm, pitch, rhyme, alliteration - they all appear frequently in poetry. To read it in translation is an empty gesture, in my opinion. You can get some value out of it, but it's sort of like the appreciation of Chinese culture one can get from going to a decent sit-down Chinese restaurant with the fu-animals by the door and a big aquarium with fish and the lazy susan in the middle of the table.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

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Answers from someone indifferent. - 08/11/2010 02:57:38 AM 848 Views
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This is why people dislike you. - 09/11/2010 07:03:17 PM 883 Views
Umm...I care? - 09/11/2010 08:42:55 PM 865 Views
Because you should care about being intelligent, rather than appearing to be intelligent. - 09/11/2010 10:32:04 PM 896 Views
Again, why would I care? - 09/11/2010 10:38:21 PM 917 Views
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I think it's rather pointless, to be honest. - 09/11/2010 10:54:17 PM 855 Views
Then why are you even here? - 09/11/2010 10:59:49 PM 799 Views
I don't know. I thought I'd see how long I could string you along. - 09/11/2010 11:00:37 PM 733 Views
You're the one who doesn't care. - 09/11/2010 11:02:11 PM 771 Views
I care only as much as I care. What others think is irrelevant to that. - 09/11/2010 11:04:15 PM 788 Views
But you're still responding to me. - 09/11/2010 11:05:37 PM 816 Views
Because I'm stringing you out until you quit. - 09/11/2010 11:10:18 PM 905 Views
I'm not going to. I find this entertaining. - 09/11/2010 11:12:27 PM 815 Views
I do as well. It's fun pretending to be an asshole, I'll admit. - 09/11/2010 11:17:34 PM 798 Views
Come now, who's pretending? - 09/11/2010 11:22:18 PM 821 Views
That is officially the last one before I start editing and making them NM. *NM* - 09/11/2010 11:24:12 PM 383 Views
Word. *NM* *NM* - 09/11/2010 11:29:37 PM 310 Views
Me, most of the time - 09/11/2010 11:40:26 PM 820 Views
Keep telling yourself that. *NM* - 09/11/2010 11:46:34 PM 693 Views
Why would I? It's not something I think much about these days. Again, what others think is trivial. *NM* - 10/11/2010 12:01:03 AM 424 Views
What about THE Other? *NM* - 10/11/2010 12:16:53 AM 346 Views
I'm not going to quote Sartre here...this time. *NM* - 10/11/2010 12:20:22 AM 350 Views
Are you 5? - 09/11/2010 11:14:26 PM 685 Views
See my original point. *NM* - 09/11/2010 11:15:30 PM 343 Views
Nah - 09/11/2010 11:15:48 PM 944 Views
But you were asked about it originally. That was my point. - 09/11/2010 11:23:25 PM 735 Views
And I was evasive about it at the time. When pressed, I answered more fully. - 09/11/2010 11:48:27 PM 834 Views
Why be evasive? - 10/11/2010 12:16:19 AM 931 Views
Ye gods. Could you people at the very, very least make your messages NM? - 09/11/2010 11:17:25 PM 802 Views
But that takes the fun out of this! *NM* - 09/11/2010 11:21:25 PM 386 Views
Re: Best one liner of the threadjack. - 10/11/2010 12:37:27 AM 925 Views
I disagree with your claim that there can be no value in translations. - 09/11/2010 08:51:20 PM 803 Views
Not "no value", but "different value" is what I would argue - 09/11/2010 09:55:54 PM 873 Views
I don't disagree, but you can't possibly learn all languages, yet you can read translations of all. - 09/11/2010 10:56:58 PM 902 Views
They are often necessary - 09/11/2010 11:00:09 PM 770 Views
My choice, hands down, is to ignore the poetry in languages I don't read. - 10/11/2010 01:44:32 AM 821 Views
An English translation of The Divine Comedy was pivotal to my conversion to Christianity. - 10/11/2010 11:04:57 AM 730 Views
Dante has a lot to answer for. *NM* - 10/11/2010 08:21:19 PM 342 Views
Ah, but to whom...? - 10/11/2010 09:17:16 PM 777 Views
K. - 08/11/2010 04:35:56 AM 972 Views
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Nothing wrong with humorous redundancy! - 09/11/2010 01:10:02 AM 816 Views
Ooh, good survey. I've been thinking for a while we needed more poetry discussion. - 08/11/2010 10:58:24 AM 966 Views
I think you underestimate the number of translations of the Bible. - 09/11/2010 01:20:30 AM 954 Views
Did they just translate logos as... life-light? - 09/11/2010 07:14:28 PM 825 Views
Yes. Yes, they did. *NM* - 09/11/2010 09:56:09 PM 314 Views
*sighs* - 09/11/2010 10:28:49 PM 696 Views
My favourite translation of logos is "point of it all". - 10/11/2010 05:12:05 PM 1090 Views
Interersting - 08/11/2010 05:14:41 PM 880 Views
I can count the poems I enjoy on one hand. Two fingers, in fact. - 08/11/2010 06:05:22 PM 861 Views
I think poetry is largely overrated. - 08/11/2010 06:12:59 PM 940 Views
And you are basing this on extensive non-reading of poetry? *NM* - 09/11/2010 08:57:06 PM 291 Views
Basing what, exactly? But the short answer is, no. - 10/11/2010 05:48:28 PM 865 Views
Re: Poetry: - 08/11/2010 07:04:01 PM 811 Views
I like some poetry, but by no means all. - 09/11/2010 12:28:41 AM 949 Views
Now that you mention it, The Imperfect Enjoyment might rank among my favourite poems. *NM* - 09/11/2010 12:46:56 AM 340 Views
It is excellent - 09/11/2010 08:16:01 PM 981 Views
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Just remembered my favourite poem - 09/11/2010 10:50:03 PM 906 Views
That is very nice *NM* - 09/11/2010 10:59:53 PM 438 Views
I'll answer this unnumbered survey. - 10/11/2010 01:37:50 AM 966 Views
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I can't believe I forgot to mention Leonard Cohen. *NM* - 12/11/2010 04:33:15 AM 329 Views

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