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Re: Poetry: (beat.) Send a noteboard - 10/11/2010 04:57:31 PM
Do you think that poetry deserves a wider readership?


Hm. Not really, I think. But you know, I haven't ever been very interested in form, so I don't appreciate the skill - even though I realise it takes great skill. You have to learn to appreciate it, though, and I - well, there are two kinds of art, right?, and I've been slightly opposed to the kind of you have to learn to like. I've felt - I've felt that art should be almost immediately accessible, instead of hiding. I've started to prefer subtlety, though. I guess I'm learning almost despite myself.

Do bookstores with no designated poetry section but entire shelves full of Ayn Rand and Bibles make you angry?


I've never seen one, but I'm sure one or two Bibles would be sufficient.

If you had a beautiful little bookstore and could stock it with whatever you wanted, wouldn't you have a section devoted to poetry?


Definitely!

Why is poetry important?


I actually don't think it is. I enjoy it, I like having it around, but it's not more (or less) important than prose. Literature in general is an essential tool for cultural memory; prose/poetry is probably the best mechanism for making sense of and gaining perspective on even those of our experiences that seem beyond normal analysis.

Also:

What are your favorite poems?


The poems I've read the most are Zampano's Pelican Poems (MZD).

Who are your favorite poets?


Probably Bukowski. I really like Mark Haddon, as well.

How did you discover them?


Picking up random books in shops and reading a few pages.

Why should I read them? I am compiling a christmas list, and need to know.


I can't really sell it to you. :P There's a good chance that you won't like either Bukowski or Haddon; they both get a lot of shit from the elite.
"All the worlds are in the sky
and some of them keep me from falling."

-- Charlie Mystery, age 5
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That is officially the last one before I start editing and making them NM. *NM* - 09/11/2010 11:24:12 PM 537 Views
Word. *NM* *NM* - 09/11/2010 11:29:37 PM 445 Views
Me, most of the time - 09/11/2010 11:40:26 PM 1118 Views
Keep telling yourself that. *NM* - 09/11/2010 11:46:34 PM 986 Views
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See my original point. *NM* - 09/11/2010 11:15:30 PM 479 Views
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But that takes the fun out of this! *NM* - 09/11/2010 11:21:25 PM 515 Views
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I disagree with your claim that there can be no value in translations. - 09/11/2010 08:51:20 PM 1110 Views
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An English translation of The Divine Comedy was pivotal to my conversion to Christianity. - 10/11/2010 11:04:57 AM 1034 Views
Dante has a lot to answer for. *NM* - 10/11/2010 08:21:19 PM 472 Views
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Nothing wrong with humorous redundancy! - 09/11/2010 01:10:02 AM 1067 Views
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My favourite translation of logos is "point of it all". - 10/11/2010 05:12:05 PM 1416 Views
Interersting - 08/11/2010 05:14:41 PM 1168 Views
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I think poetry is largely overrated. - 08/11/2010 06:12:59 PM 1229 Views
And you are basing this on extensive non-reading of poetry? *NM* - 09/11/2010 08:57:06 PM 414 Views
Basing what, exactly? But the short answer is, no. - 10/11/2010 05:48:28 PM 1165 Views
the problem is most good poets are dead and dead people tend to fail at marketing - 08/11/2010 06:44:18 PM 1162 Views
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I like some poetry, but by no means all. - 09/11/2010 12:28:41 AM 1284 Views
Now that you mention it, The Imperfect Enjoyment might rank among my favourite poems. *NM* - 09/11/2010 12:46:56 AM 476 Views
It is excellent - 09/11/2010 08:16:01 PM 1264 Views
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I can't believe I forgot to mention Leonard Cohen. *NM* - 12/11/2010 04:33:15 AM 472 Views

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