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Re: Spoilers. Camilla Send a noteboard - 13/11/2010 09:38:09 AM
The description of Snape's pain as similar to that of the dog in the burning house is perhaps a little unsubtle, but it is quite a powerful clue. I am still a little baffled that anyone could think that Snape was bad. Even after the killing of Dumbledore, there are so many indications in the text. Not to mention that "Snape is evil" would be a wholly unsatisfactory ending. If it was going to turn out that way, it could not have been revealed in the second last book. In fact, I think it has been impossible since book 1.

Yeah, I totally agree. Snape being genuinely evil would have been extremely problematic, after the way Harry's erroneous suspicions have been proven wrong in book one. Dumbledore is fallible - the main argument for Snape being truly evil was his quote about being smarter than most men and thus making bigger mistakes, as I recall - but this would've made him a complete fool, and we can't have that. Besides, it would've been way too obvious, what with the scene with Narcissa and Bellatrix, and then later the one with Draco. If he really had been evil, we'd have had more conflicting evidence so that his turning out to be evil would have come as a shock.


Indeed.

The role of Regulus. I know bragging is not really the done thing, but I am still terribly proud of having worked out the identity of R.A.B immediately when I first read the book. Perhaps it wasn't as hard to work out as I thought at the time. It is not a buried clue, after all. It is just a matter of recognising the letters. Still….

It's interesting when you think about it. Regulus is sort of like Malfoy, but even his own brother thinks he's an unrepentant Death Eater. And Regulus makes me think of Karkarov, which makes me wonder why the Order didn't offer him protection in return for information. Or perhaps in return for nothing - Snape already provided the information, after all.


True. Although I don't think Sirius had much contact with his brother -- he broke from his family, after all. But it is, perhaps, a little like Harry figuring out that Dudley is trying to be nice. Except Harry and Dudley are still living in the same house, so his opportunities are greater.

Protect Karkarov, you mean? Or Regulus?
I think they probably would have if Karkarov had gone to Dumbledore and asked for protection. But he chose to run.

Impressive that Regulus figured out, all on his own, what as far as we know nobody else except Dumbledore - much later - figured out.


Very true.

The lull, or the feeling of wrapping things up and clearing the board here … is that just me? Dumbledore's funeral feels a little like a recap. No, that isn't the right word. An overview of the main points. Something is ending here, and the next book is very different. There is a narrowing of the focus.

Yeah, this is definitely a bit of a wrapping up of the series so far - the years in Hogwarts - and a sneak peek ahead into what the next book will be. And some rather dark stuff there: "He could not let anybody else stand between him and Voldemort; he must abandon for ever the illusion he ought to have lost at the age of one: that the shelter of a parent's arms meant that nothing could hurt him". Particularly that "ought to have lost at the age of one". For the hero of a YA fantasy series, Harry is really quite dark in some ways.


Indeed.
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The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Book Six, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince - 18/10/2010 06:12:40 PM 2963 Views
General comments on the book. - 18/10/2010 06:14:10 PM 1679 Views
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Yes, I'm loving that I can read in English again. - 22/10/2010 10:10:32 PM 1912 Views
Me too - 01/11/2010 02:11:28 PM 1664 Views
Suggestions. - 18/10/2010 06:18:46 PM 1724 Views
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*cough* - 09/11/2010 09:24:21 AM 1601 Views
Oh yes. I'm being distracted by Towers of Midnight. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:11:22 PM 1013 Views
Shocking. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:43 PM 955 Views
Are we having a break right now? - 12/11/2010 06:48:10 PM 1763 Views
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Chapters 1-3: The Other Minister, Spinner's End, Will and Won't. - 18/10/2010 06:21:55 PM 1955 Views
Characters: The three Ministers, Snape, Narcissa, Bellatrix, Harry, Dumbledore, the Dursleys. - 18/10/2010 06:25:12 PM 1953 Views
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(minor book seven spoilers) - 19/10/2010 11:27:53 AM 1907 Views
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*spoilers for book 7* an assortment of characters - 19/10/2010 01:01:35 AM 1898 Views
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I rather enjoyed the new characters. - 22/10/2010 07:30:03 PM 1693 Views
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Dumbledore-centered. - 19/10/2010 01:03:05 AM 1818 Views
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Re: Dumbledore-centered. - 22/10/2010 07:33:34 PM 1778 Views
Chapters 4-6: Horace Slughorn, An Excess of Phlegm, Draco's Detour. *NM* - 20/10/2010 03:44:39 PM 1019 Views
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(Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 20/10/2010 09:25:20 PM 1903 Views
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Characters. - 25/10/2010 03:10:35 AM 1647 Views
Plotting and writing. - 20/10/2010 03:47:55 PM 1776 Views
*minor spoilers for book 7* - 20/10/2010 09:23:44 PM 1816 Views
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Dumbledore's Stephen Fry moment... or maybe that's just me. - 22/10/2010 07:35:59 PM 1608 Views
It's not just you - 22/10/2010 08:34:25 PM 1597 Views
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Characters *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:24 PM 969 Views
Harry, Romilda, Malfoy (in luuuve), Snape, Lavender Brown, McGonagall, Hermione and Slughorn. - 22/10/2010 07:26:19 PM 1857 Views
Thoughts about your thoughts. - 23/10/2010 05:28:10 PM 1609 Views
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More characters. - 25/10/2010 03:21:33 AM 1615 Views
Re: More characters. - 25/10/2010 10:27:33 AM 1611 Views
Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 07:54:35 PM 1797 Views
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Re: Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 09:54:46 PM 1672 Views
Slytherin had been in need of new blood for a long time. (And assorted other comments.) - 22/10/2010 10:34:49 PM 1811 Views
Neville. - 23/10/2010 05:30:39 PM 1714 Views
Re: Neville. - 08/11/2010 02:35:57 PM 1793 Views
NEWT Potions - 24/10/2010 03:24:42 AM 1789 Views
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Plotting and writing. *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:37 PM 958 Views
Dumbledore, patronuses and the DADA job. - 22/10/2010 07:27:23 PM 1741 Views
Malfoy and the DADA job. - 22/10/2010 10:51:03 PM 1647 Views
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Re: Dumbledore, patronuses and the DADA job. - 23/10/2010 05:32:27 PM 1660 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:50 PM 975 Views
I believe in Wrackspurts, too. And some questions. - 22/10/2010 07:28:04 PM 1610 Views
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Characters: The Gaunts, the Trio, Hagrid, and many more. *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:02:07 PM 981 Views
Harry's continued insistence about Malfoy really irritates me (even though he's right). - 25/10/2010 06:15:23 PM 1893 Views
*lol* - 25/10/2010 06:39:19 PM 1744 Views
I don't hide from my faults. - 25/10/2010 08:01:39 PM 1585 Views
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~geeky moment~ - 26/10/2010 03:14:52 PM 1633 Views
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Trelawny, Ogden, Gaunt, Ron, Hermione, Ron and Harry - 25/10/2010 10:23:55 PM 1679 Views
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Plotting and writing. - 25/10/2010 05:03:16 PM 1746 Views
Amazing amounts of accurate guesswork here, in hindsight. - 25/10/2010 05:37:28 PM 1781 Views
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The smuggling and Trelawney's rambling. - 27/10/2010 12:05:48 AM 1726 Views
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Things - 25/10/2010 10:24:19 PM 1761 Views
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Anything else? *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:03:32 PM 800 Views
Dumbledore still sounds like Stephen Fry. And reflections on the nature of Potions class. - 25/10/2010 05:11:24 PM 1598 Views
It's like baking, I think. - 25/10/2010 05:32:42 PM 1729 Views
Good analogy - 25/10/2010 05:52:38 PM 1579 Views
Yes, exactly like baking - and advanced baking involves experimenting, substituting, improvising. - 25/10/2010 06:42:42 PM 1798 Views
But not at high school. - 25/10/2010 07:57:44 PM 1693 Views
Also - 04/11/2010 09:29:47 AM 1651 Views
Also, Parseltongue - is Harry that thick, or is it a magic thing? - 25/10/2010 05:18:41 PM 1712 Views
I think it's a magic thing. - 25/10/2010 05:34:09 PM 1702 Views
It can be learned actually. Dumbledore implies he knows it and Ron uses it in book 7 - 25/10/2010 05:55:28 PM 1663 Views
Huh. I completely missed that. Good thing we're doing a reread. - 25/10/2010 05:57:38 PM 1665 Views
Speaking of Dumbledore and Parseltongue. - 28/10/2010 05:03:10 AM 1944 Views
parseltongue - 25/10/2010 10:24:46 PM 1813 Views
Interesting how many of our remarks are along similar lines. *NM* - 25/10/2010 10:27:30 PM 844 Views
Indeed - 26/10/2010 09:20:43 AM 1707 Views
Chapters 13-15: The Secret Riddle, Felix Felicis, The Unbreakable Vow *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:16:28 PM 972 Views
Characters: The Trio, Ginny, Tom Riddle, Draco,... *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:12 PM 954 Views
Dumbledore, Voldemort, Ron & Hermione, Harry, Ginny, Luna - 27/10/2010 10:31:39 PM 1686 Views
My take on Ginny is rather different, I must say... at least this time around. - 29/10/2010 01:47:20 PM 1661 Views
Girls. - 29/10/2010 05:54:25 PM 1696 Views
Draco: Not as confident as he appears, surely. - 29/10/2010 02:02:01 PM 1848 Views
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Plotting and writing. *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:26 PM 772 Views
plot and writing. - 27/10/2010 10:30:14 PM 1713 Views
Re: plot and writing. - 28/10/2010 05:07:03 AM 1874 Views
Draco can dissemble rather well, just like his parents. - 29/10/2010 02:08:35 PM 1729 Views
Re: Draco can dissemble rather well, just like his parents. - 29/10/2010 09:00:36 PM 1748 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:42 PM 804 Views
Re: Anything else? - 27/10/2010 10:30:55 PM 1860 Views
Re: Anything else? - 28/10/2010 04:56:10 AM 1793 Views
Harry comments on that when in Snape's memories in book five. - 28/10/2010 10:42:08 AM 1656 Views
I wonder if that's actually true, though. - 28/10/2010 10:39:20 AM 1839 Views
Re: I wonder if that's actually true, though. - 28/10/2010 10:44:22 AM 1702 Views
It's more than that, though. - 28/10/2010 10:55:49 AM 1762 Views
Re: It's more than that, though. - 28/10/2010 11:48:19 AM 1605 Views
Chapters 16-18: A Very Frosty Christmas, A Sluggish Memory, Birthday Surprises *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:40:39 PM 945 Views
Characters: The Trio, Fleur, Scrimgeour, Percy, Remus, Slughorn,... *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:43:02 PM 1029 Views
Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 08:51:58 PM 1843 Views
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Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 11:51:06 PM 1688 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 31/10/2010 09:14:46 PM 1913 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 31/10/2010 09:07:19 PM 1770 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 02/11/2010 06:23:04 PM 1730 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 02/11/2010 07:20:26 PM 1425 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 04/11/2010 04:03:02 AM 1677 Views
And - 04/11/2010 10:46:37 AM 1683 Views
Plotting and writing. - 29/10/2010 05:43:49 PM 1611 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 29/10/2010 08:52:34 PM 1770 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:44:04 PM 837 Views
My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. - 29/10/2010 11:28:43 PM 1703 Views
Re: My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. - 29/10/2010 11:52:12 PM 1767 Views
Chapters 19-21: Elf Tails, Lord Voldemort's Requests, The Unknowable Room *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:00:22 PM 736 Views
Characters: The Trio, the elves, Draco, Dumbledore,... *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:00:56 PM 1060 Views
the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 02:08:32 PM 1579 Views
Re: the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 05:10:11 PM 1820 Views
Re: the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 05:16:30 PM 1896 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:01:13 PM 841 Views
Dumbledore, little girls and the house-elf issue again. - 01/11/2010 02:09:35 PM 1897 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:01:27 PM 860 Views
Chapters 22-24: After the Burial, Horcruxes, Sectumsempra - 03/11/2010 09:50:17 PM 1982 Views
Characters. *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:50:33 PM 981 Views
Malfoy, Ron & Hermione, Slughorn, Voldemort, Snape and Ginny. - 04/11/2010 12:12:57 AM 1735 Views
Draco, Slughorn, Snape, the romance. - 04/11/2010 02:02:04 PM 1758 Views
Re: Draco, Slughorn, Snape, the romance. - 04/11/2010 02:16:17 PM 1780 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:50:50 PM 873 Views
Harry wrong again, house elves, horcruxes, free will, well hidden clues and some irony *DH spoiler* - 03/11/2010 10:35:20 PM 1700 Views
Re: Stuff. - 04/11/2010 04:28:04 AM 1761 Views
Re: Stuff. *spoilers for book 7* - 04/11/2010 09:10:19 AM 1783 Views
This "we'll see in book seven" thing is getting old, but still that's what I have to say here... - 04/11/2010 01:23:01 PM 1609 Views
Yes, I think you are right - 04/11/2010 01:24:41 PM 1771 Views
Well, I'm back. Some comments inside. *DH Spoilers* - 08/11/2010 02:28:11 PM 1741 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:51:04 PM 858 Views
Chapters 25-27: The Seer Overheard, The Cave, The Lightning-Struck Tower - 05/11/2010 05:37:42 PM 1599 Views
Plotting and writing. - 05/11/2010 05:39:27 PM 1430 Views
*spoilers for book 7* - 05/11/2010 07:55:07 PM 1644 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 05/11/2010 05:39:43 PM 881 Views
I like how good magic is not flashy. Also, a Tolkien thing - 05/11/2010 07:55:27 PM 1688 Views
I didn't take the comparison as far, but the gate thing did remind me of Moria, yes. (DH spoilers) - 05/11/2010 10:03:16 PM 1929 Views
yes - 05/11/2010 10:06:43 PM 1668 Views
Chapters 28-30: Flight of the Prince, The Phoenix Lament, The White Tomb. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:12 PM 982 Views
Characters. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:25 PM 817 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:40 PM 948 Views
Spoilers. - 09/11/2010 02:26:38 PM 1614 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 09/11/2010 04:49:06 PM 1667 Views
I'm assuming not even the Ministry knows 100% what she did. - 13/11/2010 12:26:14 AM 1763 Views
Very true. - 15/11/2010 01:48:36 PM 1758 Views
Not much, no, but there's one fairly crucial mention. - 15/11/2010 04:37:23 PM 1725 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 13/11/2010 12:22:22 AM 1875 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 13/11/2010 09:38:09 AM 2015 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:53 PM 830 Views
We did the Harry Potter marathon thing on Sunday - 09/11/2010 02:28:08 PM 1734 Views
I vaguely remember something of the sort, yes. - 09/11/2010 02:57:56 PM 1934 Views
Re: I vaguely remember something of the sort, yes. - 09/11/2010 02:58:56 PM 1640 Views
This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. - 09/11/2010 04:34:33 PM 1760 Views
Re: This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. - 09/11/2010 04:36:29 PM 1740 Views
Very true. - 09/11/2010 04:40:24 PM 1982 Views
Re: Very true. - 09/11/2010 04:43:45 PM 2213 Views
Agreed. - 09/11/2010 04:53:46 PM 1749 Views
Re: Agreed. - 09/11/2010 04:58:59 PM 1852 Views

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