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Winters & Neb Jacob Send a noteboard - 11/11/2009 04:56:35 PM
In Winters and Neb we see the the outlines of some very standard fantasy character tropes... the young Queen/Princess and the orphan boy/Savior. Their story progresses as we can expect. They meet under unusual circumstances and their identities are not fully known to each other. They are very quickly enamored of each other. Their paths lead in different directions. But there is the hope/dream/prophecy of a reunion and great events. You've read that one before? Yeah, me too. :P

Scholes does manage to create very interesting and compelling characters in both Neb and Winters. I think there are enough differences, both in how the characters have been created and in how the story is unfolding, that there is a good reason to believe that these characters will be deeper and better realized that simple trope characters. (CANTICLE goes a good way toward proving this)

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Lamentation by Ken Scholes the Discussion Thread - 06/11/2009 04:57:27 PM 1105 Views
The setting/created world of the Psalms of Isaak. - 06/11/2009 06:43:57 PM 839 Views
Reminded me of WoT... - 06/11/2009 09:41:44 PM 851 Views
There are some definite similarities. - 07/11/2009 07:57:38 PM 774 Views
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Can't believe I never noticed that... - 13/11/2009 05:04:27 AM 831 Views
Complete with salty sayings, even! - 13/11/2009 04:05:45 PM 754 Views
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As in most cases with Jordan... - 16/11/2009 05:02:21 PM 823 Views
He did not... - 16/11/2009 10:21:15 PM 863 Views
Yes, he most certainly did. - 17/11/2009 02:20:28 PM 863 Views
What? - 18/11/2009 07:58:21 AM 864 Views
Re: The setting/created world of the Psalms of Isaak. - 07/11/2009 05:07:08 AM 816 Views
Well, if it isn't.. - 07/11/2009 07:54:36 PM 768 Views
/Setting: codes and ciphers - 10/11/2009 12:19:27 AM 773 Views
That did bug me a bit... - 10/11/2009 01:31:04 AM 836 Views
I certainly liked the idea... - 10/11/2009 05:22:00 PM 757 Views
Glad to know I wasn't the only way who noticed this - 12/11/2009 01:40:53 AM 744 Views
Nonverbal languages - 12/11/2009 05:28:38 PM 828 Views
Re: Nonverbal languages - 13/11/2009 05:09:25 PM 718 Views
It does require... - 13/11/2009 08:51:46 PM 736 Views
Magic System... or is there one? - 06/11/2009 07:07:20 PM 899 Views
My thoughts. (i.e. <insert generic subject here>) - 06/11/2009 07:38:26 PM 980 Views
Re: My thoughts. (i.e. <insert generic subject here>) - 06/11/2009 08:56:55 PM 1085 Views
Re: My thoughts. (i.e. <insert generic subject here>) - 07/11/2009 01:28:51 AM 1023 Views
Themes... - 06/11/2009 09:00:23 PM 889 Views
Loss of innocents... - 07/11/2009 05:15:40 AM 907 Views
Absolutely. - 10/11/2009 07:39:29 PM 760 Views
Re: Themes... - 07/11/2009 04:34:12 PM 895 Views
I think... - 07/11/2009 07:52:12 PM 791 Views
Re: I think... - 08/11/2009 12:42:05 AM 790 Views
I purchased this as an afterthought. - 07/11/2009 04:00:42 PM 855 Views
Characters... - 08/11/2009 02:30:30 AM 836 Views
Isaak, or "he who laughs". - 08/11/2009 02:54:44 AM 901 Views
Indeed. - 10/11/2009 05:31:55 PM 706 Views
I hope we never do get a POV from him. - 10/11/2009 09:10:49 PM 796 Views
Me too. - 11/11/2009 02:20:04 PM 786 Views
That's funny... - 11/11/2009 06:04:13 PM 761 Views
Personally I can't wait to see how Neb developes... *NM* - 10/11/2009 12:05:05 AM 411 Views
Yes, - 10/11/2009 05:27:04 PM 824 Views
Re: Yes, - 10/11/2009 08:01:14 PM 971 Views
Well... hold out. - 10/11/2009 08:23:39 PM 757 Views
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I like it too. - 12/11/2009 07:52:05 PM 787 Views
Climactic events and the let down... - 11/11/2009 06:56:33 AM 810 Views
In such a way, the book is a Lament. - 11/11/2009 02:18:17 PM 844 Views
Should you ever conduct an interview with Scholes, would you ask him... - 12/11/2009 05:51:52 PM 789 Views
That's a great question. - 12/11/2009 07:38:13 PM 768 Views

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