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Why Mieville, if I may ask? *NM* Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 04/12/2009 08:33:43 PM
A valid enough list, although I still need to read LITTLE, BIG.

My list of six key fantasy authors (not individual books, that's ridiculously limiting) would be:

J.R.R. Tolkien
Gene Wolfe
Jack Vance
China Mieville
George R.R. Martin
Terry Pratchett

Probably nothing too cutting-edge there. I'm also thinkin Mervyn Peake should be on there but am not too sure which of the rest I'd lose to make room for him. Robert Holdstock and Robert E. Howard would be bubbling under, Neil Gaiman as well (for SANDMAN).

My SF ranking would be:

Kim Stanley Robinson
David Brin
Alastair Reynolds
Peter F. Hamilton
Alfred Bester
Frank Herbert

That's a more a list of who is good rather than 'influential/important', in which case obviously Clarke, Asimov, Heinlein and the whole enchilada would be on there. Roger Zelazny and Ian McDonald are bubbling under on that list.

In the case of both lists, ask me tomorrow and I'll give a different answer.
"We feel safe when we read what we recognise, what does not challenge our way of thinking.... a steady acceptance of pre-arranged patterns leads to the inability to question what we are told."
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Six best fantasy novels? Larry - 04/12/2009 05:54:54 AM 1970 Views
Best fantasy authors Tavi - 04/12/2009 07:01:48 AM 1667 Views
Have you read Robin Hobb? *NM* Deadsy - 04/12/2009 04:01:23 PM 837 Views
I have, and wasn't really impressed Tavi - 04/12/2009 10:08:25 PM 1480 Views
You definitely read the wrong stuff first Deadsy - 05/12/2009 12:12:07 AM 1596 Views
Agreed. unr3stricted - 09/12/2009 09:55:12 PM 1461 Views
Only read two. Book of the New Sun definitely deserves that spot. Mieville, not so much. Ghavrel - 04/12/2009 08:06:45 AM 1649 Views
Interesting. Werthead - 04/12/2009 05:21:04 PM 1513 Views
Why Mieville, if I may ask? *NM* Ghavrel - 04/12/2009 08:33:43 PM 847 Views
I didn't mean that to be a reply to you, but still Werthead - 05/12/2009 03:15:36 AM 1641 Views
No worries. Ghavrel - 05/12/2009 03:52:11 AM 1534 Views
But the list was for favorite books, not favorite or most important authors A Deathwatch Guard - 05/12/2009 10:25:13 AM 1452 Views
It was for "best" books. I realize that has a lot of meanings, though. *NM* Ghavrel - 05/12/2009 08:37:01 PM 685 Views
Hm... good point A Deathwatch Guard - 06/12/2009 02:19:13 AM 1246 Views
Glen Cook is radically overrated. Werthead - 05/12/2009 04:09:07 PM 1596 Views
Well, he's at least part of the wave that humanized fantasy. Ghavrel - 05/12/2009 08:36:29 PM 1383 Views
In the US, yes. Elsewhere, no, because they didn't know about him. Werthead - 06/12/2009 04:36:31 PM 1467 Views
Interesting. Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:15:37 AM 1411 Views
Two years? It was published in 2000... *NM* Legolas - 05/12/2009 09:03:33 PM 594 Views
Nine years is like two. *NM* Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 12:25:49 AM 758 Views
I've yet to read a Gene Wolfe. rebelaessedai - 06/12/2009 02:26:54 AM 1404 Views
Yes, yes, yes. Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 02:35:45 AM 1357 Views
You know I directly added almost all of those Wolfe quotes there, right? Larry - 06/12/2009 05:26:40 AM 1486 Views
I just find Mieville's prose exceptionally standard. Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 07:25:05 AM 1514 Views
Isn't that almost a contradiction of terms there? Larry - 06/12/2009 07:45:47 AM 1419 Views
It's remarkable for its normalcy because so many people praise it? Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 09:11:18 AM 1337 Views
Who the heck are these people? *NM* ironclad - 04/12/2009 12:46:48 PM 821 Views
I've never heard of any of them either.... *NM* Fantasy - 05/12/2009 02:58:11 AM 1124 Views
Literati Larry - 06/12/2009 05:27:28 AM 1364 Views
Yeah you're so much better than us *NM* ironclad - 06/12/2009 12:00:27 PM 748 Views
Well, you can hardly expect a group to go around calling themselves "elitist snobs." *NM* Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:16:16 AM 723 Views
Is he trying to be cool by listing stuff that 90% of fantasy readers have never heard of? Deadsy - 04/12/2009 04:05:46 PM 1416 Views
Actually, several of those books have been bestsellers and/or won several genre awards Larry - 06/12/2009 05:28:18 AM 1411 Views
I'm very ambivalent about A Wizard of Earthsea AgentOrange - 04/12/2009 05:18:00 PM 1402 Views
Possibly has to do with the times in which it was written/read Larry - 06/12/2009 05:29:27 AM 1366 Views
My Best Six best fantasy novels Nolan - 04/12/2009 07:44:12 PM 1148 Views
Re: My Best Six best fantasy novels *NM* Nolan - 04/12/2009 07:45:25 PM 649 Views
oops! *NM* Nolan - 04/12/2009 07:46:34 PM 690 Views
Re: Six best fantasy novels? Aeryn - 04/12/2009 09:06:18 PM 1522 Views
I really need to get around to reading Mists of Avalon. Ghavrel - 04/12/2009 09:50:54 PM 1318 Views
Calenture Aeryn - 05/12/2009 12:44:14 AM 1282 Views
That... sounds so cool. I'm going to check it out as soon as I get home. Ghavrel - 05/12/2009 03:53:55 AM 1366 Views
Ooh, I need to get my hands on Calenture. *NM* rebelaessedai - 06/12/2009 02:27:34 AM 741 Views
And ha! I thought it might be you. *NM* rebelaessedai - 06/12/2009 02:29:13 AM 739 Views
I'll eventually get to those in the near future Larry - 06/12/2009 05:31:29 AM 1411 Views
I don't read or buy books anymore. Aeryn - 06/12/2009 11:45:33 PM 1405 Views
I understand that Larry - 07/12/2009 12:55:46 AM 1467 Views
Okay, I'll give it a shot Tom - 04/12/2009 10:12:47 PM 1509 Views
You might more mythopoeic material in your fantasies, don't you? *NM* Larry - 04/12/2009 11:22:33 PM 766 Views
Mythopoeic? Who...me? Tom - 05/12/2009 02:19:03 AM 1277 Views
Yes, you Larry - 05/12/2009 03:51:25 AM 1438 Views
The Blogger Seems to Agree With You. The Name With No Man - 05/12/2009 10:10:07 PM 1448 Views
Book of the New Sun is very early 80's and is almost inarguably a classic of the genre. Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 12:26:55 AM 1464 Views
Never Read It, But All Accounts Support That View. The Name With No Man - 06/12/2009 02:44:17 PM 1555 Views
Bending the terms a bit... Larry - 04/12/2009 11:21:33 PM 1525 Views
n/a *NM* Aeryn - 05/12/2009 12:46:45 AM 680 Views
I like Grossman's list a lot more than Henry's. *NM* Legolas - 04/12/2009 11:41:36 PM 724 Views
Here are mine, but I probably haven't really read enough fantasy to have a top 5 Deadsy - 05/12/2009 12:16:13 AM 1295 Views
Have you tried any standalones recently? Larry - 06/12/2009 05:33:41 AM 1388 Views
I always end up wanting more Deadsy - 06/12/2009 05:53:11 AM 1380 Views
What if there were 50 more standalones that you could read that likely would be quite good? Larry - 06/12/2009 06:12:53 AM 1484 Views
The only one on his list I would think about agreeing with is Meiville. MightyYT - 05/12/2009 03:11:25 AM 1458 Views
Have you tried Mark Danielewski's House of Leaves yet? Larry - 06/12/2009 05:34:48 AM 1313 Views
No list is complete without Goodkind *NM* Choss Hauler - 05/12/2009 07:59:22 AM 779 Views
Sorry, I can't help it- no *porn* list is complete without Goodkind... *NM* rebelaessedai - 06/12/2009 02:21:22 AM 612 Views
For me....: A Deathwatch Guard - 05/12/2009 10:36:42 AM 1499 Views
He certainly has a specific kind of taste. rebelaessedai - 06/12/2009 02:20:30 AM 1317 Views
Pfft! Larry - 06/12/2009 06:54:24 AM 1230 Views
Who are you asking?? rebelaessedai - 07/12/2009 08:09:25 PM 1343 Views
Might give this a go myself... rebelaessedai - 06/12/2009 02:24:52 AM 1382 Views
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