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Agreed. unr3stricted Send a noteboard - 09/12/2009 09:55:12 PM
I haven't finished Golden Fool yet, because I just couldn't get through it. I have to be hooked fast or I don't bother. I haven't read any of the Soldier Son books because I've heard they aren't great.

You basically started on the 5th book in a 6 book series with Golden Fool. There's another trilogy in the same world but it's not as closely tied to the others so I'm skipping it in the numbering.


These are the best books she's written, IMO, and they're really really good and make her one of my favorite authors.


Assassin's Apprentice
Royal Assassin
Assassin's Quest


Not only is the Assassin series the best, but chronologically its the best to start with. The Liveship Series is technically stand-alone, but works best if you have read the Assassins books, and the Fool books are only readable IF you have read the Assassin books.

I would compare them to Speaker for the Dead, Xenocide, and Children of the Mind, by Orson Scott Card. Good books, but only if you read Ender's Game.

In this case, read the Assassin's books. I believe its called the Farseer trilogy if my memory is correct, but it has been several years.
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Six best fantasy novels? Larry - 04/12/2009 05:54:54 AM 1936 Views
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Have you read Robin Hobb? *NM* Deadsy - 04/12/2009 04:01:23 PM 814 Views
I have, and wasn't really impressed Tavi - 04/12/2009 10:08:25 PM 1444 Views
You definitely read the wrong stuff first Deadsy - 05/12/2009 12:12:07 AM 1561 Views
Agreed. unr3stricted - 09/12/2009 09:55:12 PM 1427 Views
Only read two. Book of the New Sun definitely deserves that spot. Mieville, not so much. Ghavrel - 04/12/2009 08:06:45 AM 1618 Views
Interesting. Werthead - 04/12/2009 05:21:04 PM 1476 Views
Why Mieville, if I may ask? *NM* Ghavrel - 04/12/2009 08:33:43 PM 820 Views
I didn't mean that to be a reply to you, but still Werthead - 05/12/2009 03:15:36 AM 1604 Views
No worries. Ghavrel - 05/12/2009 03:52:11 AM 1500 Views
But the list was for favorite books, not favorite or most important authors A Deathwatch Guard - 05/12/2009 10:25:13 AM 1428 Views
It was for "best" books. I realize that has a lot of meanings, though. *NM* Ghavrel - 05/12/2009 08:37:01 PM 661 Views
Hm... good point A Deathwatch Guard - 06/12/2009 02:19:13 AM 1221 Views
Glen Cook is radically overrated. Werthead - 05/12/2009 04:09:07 PM 1568 Views
Well, he's at least part of the wave that humanized fantasy. Ghavrel - 05/12/2009 08:36:29 PM 1349 Views
In the US, yes. Elsewhere, no, because they didn't know about him. Werthead - 06/12/2009 04:36:31 PM 1434 Views
Interesting. Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:15:37 AM 1386 Views
Two years? It was published in 2000... *NM* Legolas - 05/12/2009 09:03:33 PM 578 Views
Nine years is like two. *NM* Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 12:25:49 AM 744 Views
I've yet to read a Gene Wolfe. rebelaessedai - 06/12/2009 02:26:54 AM 1369 Views
Yes, yes, yes. Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 02:35:45 AM 1319 Views
You know I directly added almost all of those Wolfe quotes there, right? Larry - 06/12/2009 05:26:40 AM 1458 Views
I just find Mieville's prose exceptionally standard. Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 07:25:05 AM 1475 Views
Isn't that almost a contradiction of terms there? Larry - 06/12/2009 07:45:47 AM 1392 Views
It's remarkable for its normalcy because so many people praise it? Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 09:11:18 AM 1308 Views
Who the heck are these people? *NM* ironclad - 04/12/2009 12:46:48 PM 799 Views
I've never heard of any of them either.... *NM* Fantasy - 05/12/2009 02:58:11 AM 1109 Views
Literati Larry - 06/12/2009 05:27:28 AM 1326 Views
Yeah you're so much better than us *NM* ironclad - 06/12/2009 12:00:27 PM 727 Views
Well, you can hardly expect a group to go around calling themselves "elitist snobs." *NM* Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:16:16 AM 705 Views
Is he trying to be cool by listing stuff that 90% of fantasy readers have never heard of? Deadsy - 04/12/2009 04:05:46 PM 1386 Views
Actually, several of those books have been bestsellers and/or won several genre awards Larry - 06/12/2009 05:28:18 AM 1378 Views
I'm very ambivalent about A Wizard of Earthsea AgentOrange - 04/12/2009 05:18:00 PM 1374 Views
Possibly has to do with the times in which it was written/read Larry - 06/12/2009 05:29:27 AM 1334 Views
My Best Six best fantasy novels Nolan - 04/12/2009 07:44:12 PM 1117 Views
Re: My Best Six best fantasy novels *NM* Nolan - 04/12/2009 07:45:25 PM 637 Views
oops! *NM* Nolan - 04/12/2009 07:46:34 PM 679 Views
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That... sounds so cool. I'm going to check it out as soon as I get home. Ghavrel - 05/12/2009 03:53:55 AM 1335 Views
Ooh, I need to get my hands on Calenture. *NM* rebelaessedai - 06/12/2009 02:27:34 AM 725 Views
And ha! I thought it might be you. *NM* rebelaessedai - 06/12/2009 02:29:13 AM 721 Views
I'll eventually get to those in the near future Larry - 06/12/2009 05:31:29 AM 1382 Views
I don't read or buy books anymore. Aeryn - 06/12/2009 11:45:33 PM 1379 Views
I understand that Larry - 07/12/2009 12:55:46 AM 1428 Views
Okay, I'll give it a shot Tom - 04/12/2009 10:12:47 PM 1473 Views
You might more mythopoeic material in your fantasies, don't you? *NM* Larry - 04/12/2009 11:22:33 PM 754 Views
Mythopoeic? Who...me? Tom - 05/12/2009 02:19:03 AM 1254 Views
Yes, you Larry - 05/12/2009 03:51:25 AM 1407 Views
The Blogger Seems to Agree With You. The Name With No Man - 05/12/2009 10:10:07 PM 1411 Views
Book of the New Sun is very early 80's and is almost inarguably a classic of the genre. Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 12:26:55 AM 1431 Views
Never Read It, But All Accounts Support That View. The Name With No Man - 06/12/2009 02:44:17 PM 1528 Views
Bending the terms a bit... Larry - 04/12/2009 11:21:33 PM 1500 Views
n/a *NM* Aeryn - 05/12/2009 12:46:45 AM 658 Views
I like Grossman's list a lot more than Henry's. *NM* Legolas - 04/12/2009 11:41:36 PM 707 Views
Here are mine, but I probably haven't really read enough fantasy to have a top 5 Deadsy - 05/12/2009 12:16:13 AM 1270 Views
Have you tried any standalones recently? Larry - 06/12/2009 05:33:41 AM 1365 Views
I always end up wanting more Deadsy - 06/12/2009 05:53:11 AM 1355 Views
What if there were 50 more standalones that you could read that likely would be quite good? Larry - 06/12/2009 06:12:53 AM 1447 Views
The only one on his list I would think about agreeing with is Meiville. MightyYT - 05/12/2009 03:11:25 AM 1423 Views
Have you tried Mark Danielewski's House of Leaves yet? Larry - 06/12/2009 05:34:48 AM 1285 Views
No list is complete without Goodkind *NM* Choss Hauler - 05/12/2009 07:59:22 AM 763 Views
Sorry, I can't help it- no *porn* list is complete without Goodkind... *NM* rebelaessedai - 06/12/2009 02:21:22 AM 599 Views
For me....: A Deathwatch Guard - 05/12/2009 10:36:42 AM 1467 Views
He certainly has a specific kind of taste. rebelaessedai - 06/12/2009 02:20:30 AM 1288 Views
Pfft! Larry - 06/12/2009 06:54:24 AM 1203 Views
Who are you asking?? rebelaessedai - 07/12/2009 08:09:25 PM 1320 Views
Might give this a go myself... rebelaessedai - 06/12/2009 02:24:52 AM 1353 Views
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