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The Empire series is better than Feist by himself, IMO. Rebekah Send a noteboard - 20/01/2010 07:55:30 AM
I didn't feel that way about the Jenny Wurtz books though talking about the Tsurani side of the story. I only got about halfway through the first book and gave it up because it seemed dark and hopeless. What did you think of her books? (I am assuming you read them.)


Yes, they're rather a lot darker, but the plot's better, the writing's better, and the story carries through all three of them, which I like. And at the end there's a real sense of satisfaction at how things turn out.

The really horrible stuff doesn't last all that long.
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Magician by Raymond E Feist: Book Club now open. Rebekah - 18/01/2010 05:13:45 PM 2108 Views
Characters Rebekah - 18/01/2010 05:14:59 PM 1170 Views
My thoughts Rebekah - 18/01/2010 05:33:08 PM 1179 Views
Actually, Caraline is one of my favourites AgentOrange - 18/01/2010 09:42:49 PM 1254 Views
Crazy. Rebekah - 19/01/2010 07:33:48 PM 1298 Views
I liked her also. Spriteling - 28/01/2010 08:53:33 PM 1077 Views
Re: Characters Tashmere - 19/01/2010 12:03:30 AM 1106 Views
Re: Characters Rebekah - 19/01/2010 07:32:06 PM 1105 Views
I feel just the opposite Tashmere - 20/01/2010 03:10:56 AM 1139 Views
Oh, that I agree with. Rebekah - 20/01/2010 07:57:56 AM 1060 Views
You do understand. I definitely agree. Tashmere - 20/01/2010 12:25:40 PM 1166 Views
Re: Characters *spoilers* Nolan - 19/01/2010 03:49:30 PM 1268 Views
Hm. Rebekah - 19/01/2010 07:35:32 PM 1159 Views
Re: Characters Myrdhyn - 19/01/2010 07:49:52 PM 1109 Views
Amos Trask The Wandering Gambler - 21/01/2010 05:44:29 PM 1130 Views
Re: Amos Trask sarasedai - 22/01/2010 06:54:18 PM 1071 Views
Re: Amos Trask Myrdhyn - 25/01/2010 03:44:14 PM 1130 Views
World building. Rebekah - 18/01/2010 05:16:21 PM 1169 Views
Cool, simple and effective magic system. AgentOrange - 18/01/2010 09:47:15 PM 1184 Views
I haven't read Magician in ages, so... Legolas - 18/01/2010 10:16:46 PM 1085 Views
The Hall of Worlds makes a first appearence in... AgentOrange - 19/01/2010 12:01:19 AM 1099 Views
No, that sounds right. Legolas - 19/01/2010 12:16:58 AM 1178 Views
Shodow of a Dark Queen was a very very good book AgentOrange - 19/01/2010 09:00:47 AM 1139 Views
Re: World building. Myrdhyn - 19/01/2010 07:58:40 PM 1166 Views
there is a reason for that imlad - 27/01/2010 06:13:08 PM 1074 Views
Doh! I had completely forgotten that. Myrdhyn - 27/01/2010 07:28:08 PM 1202 Views
that said, it is my absolute favorite setting for D&D style gaming imlad - 29/01/2010 05:55:02 AM 1091 Views
Re: World building. Cockatiel of Doom - 08/02/2010 02:05:59 AM 1410 Views
Plot. Rebekah - 18/01/2010 05:17:30 PM 1160 Views
Re: Plot. Tashmere - 18/01/2010 11:51:55 PM 1100 Views
I really enjoyed the plot. Spriteling - 28/01/2010 08:52:28 PM 1136 Views
Re: I really enjoyed the plot. Myrdhyn - 29/01/2010 03:14:52 PM 1042 Views
Is the book too long? Rebekah - 18/01/2010 05:20:54 PM 1161 Views
I would be curious to see the original version too. Tashmere - 18/01/2010 11:55:06 PM 1091 Views
To give an example of edited bits Wibble - 01/02/2010 11:17:26 PM 1216 Views
Thanks, Wibble. *NM* Tashmere - 02/02/2010 01:18:19 AM 492 Views
General stuff &c. Rebekah - 18/01/2010 05:21:52 PM 1186 Views
Magician is one of my favourite fantasy books. Rebekah - 18/01/2010 05:27:02 PM 1288 Views
I couldn't have said it better *NM* Nolan - 19/01/2010 03:31:38 PM 516 Views
A "comfort read". I like that description. Tashmere - 20/01/2010 03:14:53 AM 1127 Views
The Empire series is better than Feist by himself, IMO. Rebekah - 20/01/2010 07:55:30 AM 1215 Views
Hmm. Maybe I will give it another shot. Craig was just trying to talk me into that yesterday. Tashmere - 20/01/2010 12:29:25 PM 1068 Views
in that case, you should be wary of the most beautifully written fantasy series of all time imlad - 27/01/2010 06:32:07 PM 1107 Views
Oh, I loved that series! At least after the first hundred pages or so. That didn't qualify as dark Tashmere - 31/01/2010 07:58:08 PM 997 Views
first time i read Servant of the Empire imlad - 27/01/2010 06:19:42 PM 1077 Views
i loved Riftwar bu TOTALLY LOVED the Empire trilogy imlad - 27/01/2010 06:17:14 PM 1176 Views
nm *NM* Tashmere - 20/01/2010 03:15:20 AM 538 Views
I think that my husband made a good choice when he used it to help hook and reel me into fantasy. Tashmere - 18/01/2010 11:58:00 PM 1149 Views
It is a very good introduction into the fantasy genre... and a fun read. *NM* Jacob - 19/01/2010 03:26:34 PM 495 Views
Is it, though? Nebhead - 20/01/2010 06:32:19 PM 1268 Views
If not Magician, then what? Myrdhyn - 20/01/2010 07:50:35 PM 1170 Views
How is WoT weighty in comparison to Magician? Jacob - 20/01/2010 08:22:05 PM 1068 Views
Re: How is WoT weighty in comparison to Magician? Myrdhyn - 20/01/2010 08:45:48 PM 1195 Views
Absolutely. Jacob - 20/01/2010 08:19:19 PM 1130 Views
May I ask... Legolas - 20/01/2010 10:25:19 PM 1108 Views
I think Feist's writing is superior to Jordan's. Rebekah - 20/01/2010 10:29:20 PM 1072 Views
Well, as I said, I'm having to base this on the Empire books... Legolas - 20/01/2010 10:56:27 PM 1062 Views
Jordan has written not one believable female. Not one. Rebekah - 20/01/2010 10:59:25 PM 1083 Views
I find the suggestion insulting. Jacob - 21/01/2010 06:13:03 PM 1048 Views
I meant no offense. Legolas - 21/01/2010 08:05:08 PM 1202 Views
Jacob - 29/01/2010 07:28:02 PM 1168 Views
I've reread the original Riftwar books and the Empire series multiple time imlad - 27/01/2010 06:29:27 PM 1145 Views
yeah, much better intro to fantasy then say David Eddings ** shudders ** *NM* imlad - 27/01/2010 06:22:51 PM 486 Views
Yes, for more mature readers (ie not children). Rebekah - 20/01/2010 08:28:10 PM 1041 Views
Re: Yes, for more mature readers (ie not children). Myrdhyn - 20/01/2010 08:46:38 PM 1216 Views
Aye, so do I. Rebekah - 20/01/2010 08:57:29 PM 1153 Views
Re: Aye, so do I. Myrdhyn - 20/01/2010 09:02:03 PM 1045 Views
Agreed - people who first read him as adults are probably going to find him boring and repetitive. Legolas - 20/01/2010 10:19:05 PM 1146 Views
I'm pretty sure that that criticism can be levelled at many 'popular' genre writers/series. Jacob - 21/01/2010 06:19:11 PM 1054 Views
I imagine so, yeah. Legolas - 21/01/2010 07:45:45 PM 1084 Views
if you want to start the kids on fantasy even earlier, try this imlad - 27/01/2010 06:41:14 PM 1114 Views
Re: if you want to start the kids on fantasy even earlier, try this Myrdhyn - 27/01/2010 07:40:52 PM 1055 Views
Xanth and Shannarra got me hooked on Fantasy Nolan - 27/01/2010 08:20:30 PM 1015 Views
Re: Xanth and Shannarra got me hooked on Fantasy Myrdhyn - 27/01/2010 10:58:36 PM 1131 Views
I like the word "billiondy" *NM* Nolan - 31/01/2010 03:58:28 PM 522 Views
Thanks. You have my permission to use it. *NM* Myrdhyn - 04/02/2010 06:40:40 PM 481 Views
I started with Narnia at age 7 and read the Hobbit within a year imlad - 29/01/2010 06:01:01 AM 999 Views
While it has its dark moments, it is much lighter than most fantasy. A very fun, easy read. *NM* Myrdhyn - 19/01/2010 07:50:52 PM 502 Views
Best thing about it is spawning the Empire Series mick - 21/01/2010 02:09:14 AM 1024 Views
Thanks Rebekah!!!! Nolan - 27/01/2010 08:37:03 PM 1034 Views
A great popcorn read Mark - 27/01/2010 11:28:34 PM 979 Views
Has anyone decided to continue on with the series? Knightscape - 29/01/2010 06:12:01 AM 1148 Views
Shadow of a Dark Queen is where I stopped with Feist. Rebekah - 29/01/2010 07:45:11 AM 943 Views
Yes Mark - 29/01/2010 10:08:20 AM 1146 Views
Re: Yes Myrdhyn - 29/01/2010 03:18:15 PM 972 Views
I know Mark - 29/01/2010 03:52:09 PM 1156 Views
Re: I know Myrdhyn - 30/01/2010 01:46:31 AM 1153 Views
Prince of the Blood (Original if possible) Why? Nolan - 31/01/2010 04:05:25 PM 1058 Views
Due to some Retcon Mark - 01/02/2010 11:12:47 AM 1239 Views
you mean there are now THREE versions?? imlad - 05/02/2010 05:45:51 AM 1226 Views
I don't think so Mark - 05/02/2010 10:42:59 AM 1263 Views
thats probably the one i am thinking of then imlad - 05/02/2010 11:40:48 PM 1265 Views
I want to, yes. Spriteling - 29/01/2010 01:40:22 PM 1450 Views
I have them all. Shall I add it to your list? Wibble - 29/01/2010 07:44:46 PM 1170 Views
I will read more after I finish The Count of Monte Cristo *NM* Tashmere - 31/01/2010 07:59:52 PM 491 Views
As far as I know, I have read everything imlad - 05/02/2010 05:39:35 AM 1009 Views
At The Gates of Darkness is the most recent Mark - 05/02/2010 10:54:26 AM 1419 Views
don't think I've even seen that one yet imlad - 05/02/2010 11:46:29 PM 977 Views
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