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Re: Dark Fantasy may be good. Aeryn Send a noteboard - 24/01/2010 05:45:35 PM
The finished trilogy is certainly better. As I said in a previous reply, she's really irritated that Martin isn't done.

When you say "dark fantasy," does that mean heavy in the fantasy elements or just not naive and elf-happy? Either variant would be good but the more gritty and edgy the more likely it's going to go over well. She isn't squeamish unless the book illustrates what it writes about (though excessive description of, say, maggots eating someone alive from the inside and burrowing out of their eyes, etc., might be a bit too much).

I'm curious as to the reasoning for the statement that your recommendations are better than everyone else's but I'm not asking for an explanation.


By "dark" I mean that the characters go through some dark mental places. I really like it when they are tortured (not necessarily physically) and conflicted. These are underrated authors, not as widely known, but highly praised. The writing is good and character-driven. I wasn't able to put them down when I read them, and everyone I recommended them to really liked them. (Although I have more confidence making recommendations to women.) I've also read some of the other books recommended here (just say no to Tad Williams' Otherland, for example, I read the 1st book - it was a brick and not fulfilling at all, and not the sort of a thing that you're looking for. Lies of Locke Lamorre was fluffy and not memorable. Erikson - absolutely not. I read the 1st book and half of the 2nd, at which it was supposed to be great, and it's a waste of time. Abercrombie I haven't read, that may be a good rec, what kept me away from it is that it seems to be more focused on violence than character development. Jennifer Fallon - probably a good rec, I read one book of hers, and it was solid. Guy Gabriel Kay - you haven't read him? I think of him as the successor to Tolkien. He's really good, his stuff is historical/romantic fantasy. He's worth reading. Lights of War and Shadow by Janny Wurts - I put the 1st book down 200 pages away from the end. Eh.)

Daughter of the Empire is not dark, and it has more of clever plotting / political intrigue.
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Has she read Erikson/would war-based fantasy put her off? - 22/01/2010 03:30:36 AM 1110 Views
What she liked about Martin was the political intrigue and realism. - 24/01/2010 03:07:34 AM 1012 Views
Very much so. - 24/01/2010 03:30:47 AM 988 Views
The trilogy of Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn by Tad Williams. - 22/01/2010 04:07:26 AM 1126 Views
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Wrong place. Ignore. *NM* - 24/01/2010 11:05:51 AM 435 Views
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Scott Lynch, though the series is no wheres near complete, the Lies of Locke Lamora is damn good. *NM* - 22/01/2010 05:13:14 AM 481 Views
^ This. - 23/01/2010 04:16:53 PM 922 Views
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and she'll laugh her ass off at times *NM* - 24/01/2010 09:51:16 PM 421 Views
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What is the basic premise? *NM* - 24/01/2010 03:09:37 AM 412 Views
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I'll second the recommendation, btw. - 25/01/2010 11:03:56 AM 934 Views
This is a shot in the dark - 22/01/2010 07:37:49 AM 1196 Views
How many books are there and what are they about? *NM* - 24/01/2010 03:10:11 AM 503 Views
The Empire series by Feist and Wurtz? - 22/01/2010 12:47:50 PM 1073 Views
This is getting to be information overload - 24/01/2010 03:11:18 AM 864 Views
Right - 25/01/2010 02:12:06 PM 978 Views
Empire trilogy is awesome - 24/01/2010 09:57:39 PM 1075 Views
I did, way back when - you don't need to have read Riftwar. *NM* - 24/01/2010 10:06:05 PM 424 Views
Si. - 25/01/2010 02:10:45 PM 902 Views
A big thank you to everyone with suggestions!!! - 22/01/2010 01:17:54 PM 939 Views
Abercrombie or maybe Guy Gavriel Kay. *NM* - 22/01/2010 03:14:03 PM 441 Views
Seconded - 22/01/2010 09:07:44 PM 835 Views
Can you give me a bit more insight (either of you) ? - 24/01/2010 03:12:23 AM 954 Views
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Kay is a beautiful writer. - 25/01/2010 05:01:14 PM 1085 Views
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Melanie Rawn's Dragon Prince and Dragon Star Trilogies - 22/01/2010 04:29:43 PM 921 Views
I enjoyed the Dragon Prince series. - 22/01/2010 10:19:31 PM 1043 Views
The heavy emphasis on the word "Dragon" in both series makes me wary - 24/01/2010 03:15:52 AM 894 Views
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You have now - 24/01/2010 02:19:11 PM 918 Views
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McKillip is lovely. *NM* - 23/01/2010 12:34:36 AM 358 Views
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I love your false modesty. - 23/01/2010 10:35:25 AM 1058 Views
Dark Fantasy may be good. - 24/01/2010 03:23:31 AM 970 Views
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Is it finished? *NM* - 24/01/2010 03:23:50 AM 390 Views
Yes it is. - 24/01/2010 09:52:24 AM 832 Views
Daniel Abraham... - 24/01/2010 11:07:16 AM 951 Views
Wars of Light and Shadow by Janny Wurts - 24/01/2010 05:20:44 PM 1074 Views

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