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Well, seeing the expressed interest... Tom Send a noteboard - 09/02/2010 09:28:41 PM
...let's discuss it further.

I like the selections you suggested in general, particularly because most of them are not overly long (with War and Peace and The Brothers Karamazov being the exceptions).

Of course, I think that the Pushkin might be lost on anyone who doesn't speak Russian, since Evgeni Onegin is entirely in verse. Perhaps Kapitanskaya Dochka, since it's a prose work, or (a perennial favourite of mine due to its commentary on power in Russia) the play Boris Godunov?

With Gogol, I'd prefer to just bite the bullet and discuss Dead Souls since it's not that long, but The Nose and The Overcoat are good choices as well. Of course, Gogol could/should be read right before Bulgakov's Master and Margarita in my opinion, given the fact that both grew up in the Ukraine and both have a similar style.

The Turgenev, Tolstoy and Dostoevsky selections I am in complete agreement on. Bunin is good as well (and a Nobel laureate, for people who care about such things) - Sukhodol is one of his more famous works.

Pasternak and Bulgakov are good as well. I'm tempted to say that we should just get Zamyatin listed as a sci-fi/fantasy read for the month, not because I don't like him, but because there's very little "Russian" about his novel We, in contrast to all the other writers on the list. If you want to put another fantasy or sci-fi book in the list to compete with Bulgakov, you could put Alexei Tolstoy's Aelita. However, I would tend to pick someone else for Zamyatin's place (and Lukyanenko's, honestly - Night Watch isn't worthy to be mentioned in the same list as the others). For Zamyatin's place I would pick someone from the Soviet period - Solzhenitsyn, Shalamov or Rybakov, or even Shvarts or Zoshchenko, though they wrote plays (the former) and very short stories (the latter). For Lukyanenko's place, if you're dead-set on a post-Soviet writer I'd pick Pelevin, and I'd pick his strongest novel, Chapaev i Pustota, or perhaps Pokolenie P.

Also, I'd break it up along a non-chronological basis, something like this:

1. Doctor Zhivago
2. The Pushkin Selection
3. the Pelevin Selection
4. Dostoevsky I (whichever one we decide on)
5. Fathers and Sons
6. Soviet Selection
7. Tolstoy - War and Peace (first half)
8. Tolstoy - War and Peace (second half)
9. Gogol - The Nose and the Overcoat (a welcome break after Tolstoy)
10. Master and Margarita
11. Dostoevsky II
12. Bunin

Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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Well, seeing the expressed interest... - 09/02/2010 09:28:41 PM 1183 Views
Re: Well, seeing the expressed interest... - 10/02/2010 12:26:06 AM 1381 Views
So how about keeping Zamyatin and replacing Lukyanenko with Pelevin? - 10/02/2010 02:45:33 AM 1286 Views
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Super dooper. *NM* - 10/02/2010 09:08:47 PM 562 Views
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Have you read Pelevin? - 10/02/2010 03:16:22 AM 1098 Views
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I'm happy now. *NM* - 10/02/2010 08:15:07 PM 561 Views
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Да - 10/02/2010 01:38:36 PM 1042 Views
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La reine Margot? *NM* - 10/02/2010 03:18:23 PM 506 Views
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