Active Users:504 Time:29/07/2026 10:57:40 AM
Back to Messageboard Post New Thread Search Help Stats Rules
Re: You do realize that that is a device, right? James Send a noteboard - 04/09/2009 12:10:10 AM
1) Kvothe, who was the most uber of mary sues I have ever read. Though many people like to point out that he is meant to be this way, it still stands.


Kvothe is telling a story, his own story, and he is a storyteller/entertainer by training, at least in part. There is a marked difference between what we know of Kvothe based on his own telling, and in some of those momentary cracks we've seen between the narration.

Rothfuss seems to be playing around with a not completely reliable narrator but expanding that by giving the occasional external context to that narrator. Rothfuss seems to have Kvothe telling a somewhat idealized version of his past, with hints that things are missing from the telling. Where Rothfuss takes this, or if he puts it to further use, will be how we'll have to judge the work, I think.


Well, as I had it tacked on to the end of my first point, which you quoted... Yes, I am well aware of this and to me, it doesn't matter at all. Yes, the hints provide us with the basis that things will change, but I am not looking at what may be, I am looking at the now. The first book presents a Mary Sue, that the author intends for the character to appear this way though the use of an unreliable narrator doesn't change this. I can look to the future, but I am the sort that judges a book on its own merits, not on the merits of the books that precede or succeed it. The next novel could well shatter the notion that he is a Mary Sue and improve the series, but that still wouldn't change how I felt about the first novel.
"It's a strange world. Let's keep it that way."
Reply to message
The Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss Bryce - 03/09/2009 12:19:58 AM 1474 Views
I'm at the library right now. I'll give it a shot. *NM* beetnemesis - 03/09/2009 12:45:57 AM 561 Views
I have to really fight myself not to pimp this book. Tashmere - 03/09/2009 12:58:42 AM 1096 Views
What was the heavily recommended book? Chas - 03/09/2009 01:30:29 AM 931 Views
Confederacy of Dunces. Tashmere - 03/09/2009 02:38:40 AM 1054 Views
It is not. nossy - 04/09/2009 04:08:00 AM 955 Views
OOh. spew the vitriol. jh - 04/09/2009 10:08:26 AM 994 Views
Can do nossy - 04/09/2009 06:04:31 PM 1077 Views
I so understand that. Tashmere - 04/09/2009 09:13:13 PM 905 Views
I really, really liked it when I read it the first time. Chas - 03/09/2009 01:28:50 AM 865 Views
ok, I'm finally excited enough. It's been hammered into my head 5 times. I love... wotrafonia Deadsy - 03/09/2009 02:17:22 AM 979 Views
Second best book I've read all year. LightsongTheBold - 03/09/2009 02:34:18 AM 1282 Views
I... really just wasn't that enthralled by it. Sorry, guys. Craig - 03/09/2009 02:34:21 AM 949 Views
Shun the non-believer...shuuuuuuuuuuuuuuunnnnn....n Bryce - 03/09/2009 02:38:10 AM 1042 Views
I would never shun you, Craig. Tashmere - 03/09/2009 02:42:26 AM 1070 Views
*snickers immaturely* *NM* Deadsy - 03/09/2009 02:44:14 AM 486 Views
Shut it, you. *NM* Craig - 03/09/2009 03:04:03 AM 497 Views
*Three Musketeers childishly* Bryce - 03/09/2009 03:13:30 AM 1006 Views
~Gets it two minutes later~ *NM* Tashmere - 03/09/2009 04:30:21 AM 451 Views
*NM* Craig - 03/09/2009 04:35:59 AM 478 Views
i knew someone would do that Deadsy - 03/09/2009 06:23:30 AM 1020 Views
~smacks the back of Deadsy's head while smiling sweetly~ Tashmere - 03/09/2009 04:29:30 AM 922 Views
Sure, you say that now... Craig - 03/09/2009 03:09:10 AM 969 Views
And now, you must shun me Bryce - 03/09/2009 03:12:11 AM 947 Views
~shuns!~ Craig - 03/09/2009 04:32:37 AM 976 Views
Dumb question Gher - 03/09/2009 03:36:35 AM 989 Views
It's a book about smurfs *NM* Bryce - 03/09/2009 03:52:32 AM 915 Views
Re: Dumb question Craig - 03/09/2009 04:34:46 AM 1045 Views
That was a much better way to word my quesion Craig. Thank you for handling that maturely unlike Tashmere - 03/09/2009 04:35:38 AM 1163 Views
Of course I'm mature. Deadsy is just a doody-head. Craig - 03/09/2009 05:15:57 AM 1174 Views
Somebody else was recommending another graphic novel in the last day or two. Tashmere - 03/09/2009 05:26:10 AM 968 Views
That was me. In disguise. Craig - 03/09/2009 05:35:15 AM 941 Views
House of Leaves Jayhawk - 03/09/2009 05:05:18 PM 966 Views
It is scary nossy - 04/09/2009 04:10:49 AM 927 Views
Sleep's totally optional. Jayhawk - 04/09/2009 03:42:40 PM 941 Views
Oh. You guys are almost making me curious enough to try it. *NM* Tashmere - 04/09/2009 09:14:13 PM 444 Views
Don't blame me for the side-effects of reading that book. Jayhawk - 04/09/2009 10:38:18 PM 963 Views
That would be pretty sweet. *NM* Craig - 05/09/2009 01:56:22 AM 433 Views
I don't think my husband would agree. Tashmere - 05/09/2009 03:17:17 AM 924 Views
Awwww. *NM* Craig - 05/09/2009 03:36:17 AM 455 Views
Am not *NM* Deadsy - 04/09/2009 02:36:10 PM 441 Views
No. You are not a doody head. Tashmere - 04/09/2009 09:17:45 PM 1145 Views
I've read two of these. Danu - 05/09/2009 03:24:07 PM 922 Views
Re: I... really just wasn't that enthralled by it. Sorry, guys. James - 03/09/2009 03:43:15 AM 1074 Views
Dare to be different! Craig - 03/09/2009 04:31:41 AM 1012 Views
Mary Sue? Could you give me a clue here? Tashmere - 03/09/2009 04:40:29 AM 1020 Views
Re: Mary Sue Craig - 03/09/2009 05:10:11 AM 1193 Views
Good grief...that site would be enough to give any author anxiety attacks. Tashmere - 03/09/2009 05:37:35 AM 1003 Views
I agree about the prose. It's what sold me on the book Bryce - 03/09/2009 11:50:35 AM 856 Views
He's a consummate storyteller. Jayhawk - 03/09/2009 05:08:42 PM 943 Views
You do realize that that is a device, right? Jacob - 03/09/2009 04:35:05 PM 936 Views
You said what I was trying to say when I said it will improve Bryce - 03/09/2009 05:56:27 PM 1209 Views
Re: You do realize that that is a device, right? James - 04/09/2009 12:10:10 AM 971 Views
I'm with you there. *NM* jh - 03/09/2009 06:54:51 AM 386 Views
I really dug it. Nate - 03/09/2009 04:49:39 AM 994 Views
I didn't like it that much. AliasRY - 03/09/2009 05:12:58 AM 960 Views
I'm thinking the series will improve quite a bit by the end Bryce - 03/09/2009 11:55:08 AM 1004 Views
Yuck. *NM* Joker - 03/09/2009 10:39:52 PM 467 Views
Succinct. *NM* Craig - 05/09/2009 01:56:44 AM 385 Views
I loved it... ajah - 05/09/2009 06:57:17 AM 698 Views
Back to Messageboard Post New Thread Search Help Stats Rules

Reply to Message

Block Quote Paragraph Quote
Formatting
Smiley Codes