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Re: You do realize that that is a device, right? James Send a noteboard - 04/09/2009 12:10:10 AM
1) Kvothe, who was the most uber of mary sues I have ever read. Though many people like to point out that he is meant to be this way, it still stands.


Kvothe is telling a story, his own story, and he is a storyteller/entertainer by training, at least in part. There is a marked difference between what we know of Kvothe based on his own telling, and in some of those momentary cracks we've seen between the narration.

Rothfuss seems to be playing around with a not completely reliable narrator but expanding that by giving the occasional external context to that narrator. Rothfuss seems to have Kvothe telling a somewhat idealized version of his past, with hints that things are missing from the telling. Where Rothfuss takes this, or if he puts it to further use, will be how we'll have to judge the work, I think.


Well, as I had it tacked on to the end of my first point, which you quoted... Yes, I am well aware of this and to me, it doesn't matter at all. Yes, the hints provide us with the basis that things will change, but I am not looking at what may be, I am looking at the now. The first book presents a Mary Sue, that the author intends for the character to appear this way though the use of an unreliable narrator doesn't change this. I can look to the future, but I am the sort that judges a book on its own merits, not on the merits of the books that precede or succeed it. The next novel could well shatter the notion that he is a Mary Sue and improve the series, but that still wouldn't change how I felt about the first novel.
"It's a strange world. Let's keep it that way."
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