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So, let's talk about Doctor Zhivago. Tom Send a noteboard - 15/03/2010 12:51:09 PM
Pasternak had originally wanted to call the novel There Will Be No Death but changed the title. However, the original title expresses at once the way in which the novel addresses utopian ideas and the author's religious beliefs.

It's not just an anti-utopian novel, though. There's a love story (something that the movie brought to the forefront), allegories to real people and ideas and poetry.

Rather than breaking the discussion down into smaller units, I'd like to just ask anyone who read the novel to express their initial thoughts (what they liked, what they didn't, etc.) and ask questions about parts that didn't seem to make sense or which they found problematic, and we can let the discussion go from there. Having read a lot of the literary criticism surrounding the book, it may be that I am able to at least say what people think certain things meant. Then again, I may not.

Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

*MySmiley*
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So, let's talk about Doctor Zhivago. - 15/03/2010 12:51:09 PM 1629 Views
I liked it a lot. - 15/03/2010 03:24:34 PM 899 Views
So far, so good - 15/03/2010 03:58:44 PM 888 Views
There are lots of good quotes. - 15/03/2010 09:20:26 PM 756 Views
I have finally finished it. - 22/03/2010 12:31:24 AM 913 Views
There will be more later. Much more. So lets start at the beginning. - 15/03/2010 04:22:15 PM 814 Views
... I'm clearly lacking in braincells. - 15/03/2010 05:03:35 PM 915 Views
... yes, you moved to scotland? *NM* - 15/03/2010 05:42:21 PM 347 Views
It's not contagious! - 15/03/2010 05:47:41 PM 742 Views
It probably is. Don't worry, we still like you! *NM* - 15/03/2010 09:55:07 PM 347 Views
I didn't notice the Anna Karenina connection. That's a good point. - 15/03/2010 09:26:41 PM 849 Views
Yes. Perhaps we should tell the non-Russian speakers/readers that the name of the protagonist, - 15/03/2010 10:22:39 PM 954 Views
Zhivago is the Church Slavonic genitive singular of живой (zhivoi), "living" - 15/03/2010 11:18:23 PM 803 Views
I knew those - 15/03/2010 11:22:02 PM 888 Views
I thought this was a great read, and I'm sure I've missed a lot, which will make a reread good too. - 15/03/2010 05:16:19 PM 948 Views
On balance, there IS a love story. Just not quite the one that most people think. - 15/03/2010 09:34:20 PM 867 Views
I noticed that as well - 15/03/2010 09:42:04 PM 934 Views
There is a lot of Christian eschatology, too - 15/03/2010 09:46:59 PM 850 Views
Yes - 15/03/2010 11:23:23 PM 992 Views
My initial thoughts - 15/03/2010 06:02:21 PM 900 Views
Re: My initial thoughts - 15/03/2010 08:54:15 PM 822 Views
Which idioms were you talking about? - 15/03/2010 09:43:09 PM 871 Views
Re: Which idioms were you talking about? - 15/03/2010 10:07:23 PM 848 Views
The names are not quite as hard as it may seem at first - 15/03/2010 09:41:06 PM 841 Views
There appears to be a lull, so some background - How many of you have read anything about - 15/03/2010 08:19:07 PM 830 Views
This is my first novel in that genre, fiction or non. - 15/03/2010 08:22:04 PM 712 Views
I've read bits & pieces. - 15/03/2010 08:33:41 PM 871 Views
Ok, since you're interested, here is some "light" reading for you. Approach with caution. - 15/03/2010 08:47:42 PM 988 Views
Interestingly, I'm seeing parallels now that I'm reading Gibbon. - 15/03/2010 09:53:15 PM 851 Views
Koenker was mine for Soviet history. - 15/03/2010 10:08:40 PM 1137 Views
Finally got around to reading this. Thanks for sharing. *NM* - 22/03/2010 04:45:24 PM 345 Views
You're welcome. *NM* - 22/03/2010 05:14:26 PM 304 Views
I knew a bit about it. - 15/03/2010 08:36:20 PM 969 Views
Fiction or non-fiction? - 15/03/2010 09:21:04 PM 994 Views
Do you mean Ten Days that Shook the World by John Reed? - 15/03/2010 09:54:34 PM 837 Views
Ten...I was typing from memories of close to 15 years ago - 15/03/2010 10:57:05 PM 841 Views
Either, though specifically I was thinking of non-fiction. - 15/03/2010 10:11:52 PM 887 Views
That's what I was thinking of when I read it - 15/03/2010 10:59:36 PM 891 Views
Enough to understand everything easily enough. - 21/04/2010 01:03:54 AM 715 Views
My own personal thoughts on Doctor Zhivago - 15/03/2010 11:44:05 PM 1104 Views
This review has been helpful so far for me. - 23/03/2010 11:39:51 PM 793 Views
Essay I just finished writing on the book - 16/03/2010 01:26:23 AM 1223 Views
I'm really enjoying it. - 16/03/2010 03:05:25 AM 881 Views
Hey, if I can come late to the party, so can you. *NM* - 21/04/2010 01:04:15 AM 273 Views
I'm still sailing through it - 16/03/2010 09:25:34 PM 901 Views
Some questions. - 19/03/2010 08:27:38 AM 799 Views
Class can be tricky given the Russian context. - 19/03/2010 05:09:14 PM 976 Views
Grand. Thanks for the answers. - 20/03/2010 02:33:18 PM 815 Views
As an addendum to what Greg wrote: - 19/03/2010 05:56:56 PM 850 Views
Re: As an addendum to what Greg wrote: - 20/03/2010 02:36:36 PM 861 Views
No, Tonya was exiled. It was a fortune of timing. - 20/03/2010 05:22:44 PM 869 Views
The Possessed: Adventures with Russian Books and the People Who Read Them - 21/03/2010 05:34:03 PM 893 Views
It looks a bit strained to me. - 22/03/2010 03:28:34 AM 784 Views
So far the reviews are pretty glowing, as are the Amazon reviewers. - 22/03/2010 01:44:19 PM 886 Views
In other news, I read about 100 pages of The Island at the Center of the World. - 22/03/2010 03:48:47 PM 827 Views
I figured that you would like it. - 22/03/2010 05:14:06 PM 959 Views

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