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So, let's talk about Doctor Zhivago. Tom Send a noteboard - 15/03/2010 12:51:09 PM
Pasternak had originally wanted to call the novel There Will Be No Death but changed the title. However, the original title expresses at once the way in which the novel addresses utopian ideas and the author's religious beliefs.

It's not just an anti-utopian novel, though. There's a love story (something that the movie brought to the forefront), allegories to real people and ideas and poetry.

Rather than breaking the discussion down into smaller units, I'd like to just ask anyone who read the novel to express their initial thoughts (what they liked, what they didn't, etc.) and ask questions about parts that didn't seem to make sense or which they found problematic, and we can let the discussion go from there. Having read a lot of the literary criticism surrounding the book, it may be that I am able to at least say what people think certain things meant. Then again, I may not.

Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

*MySmiley*
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So, let's talk about Doctor Zhivago. - 15/03/2010 12:51:09 PM 1763 Views
I liked it a lot. - 15/03/2010 03:24:34 PM 1096 Views
So far, so good - 15/03/2010 03:58:44 PM 1016 Views
There are lots of good quotes. - 15/03/2010 09:20:26 PM 861 Views
I have finally finished it. - 22/03/2010 12:31:24 AM 1026 Views
There will be more later. Much more. So lets start at the beginning. - 15/03/2010 04:22:15 PM 941 Views
... I'm clearly lacking in braincells. - 15/03/2010 05:03:35 PM 1037 Views
... yes, you moved to scotland? *NM* - 15/03/2010 05:42:21 PM 411 Views
It's not contagious! - 15/03/2010 05:47:41 PM 875 Views
It probably is. Don't worry, we still like you! *NM* - 15/03/2010 09:55:07 PM 410 Views
I didn't notice the Anna Karenina connection. That's a good point. - 15/03/2010 09:26:41 PM 958 Views
Yes. Perhaps we should tell the non-Russian speakers/readers that the name of the protagonist, - 15/03/2010 10:22:39 PM 1080 Views
Zhivago is the Church Slavonic genitive singular of живой (zhivoi), "living" - 15/03/2010 11:18:23 PM 908 Views
I knew those - 15/03/2010 11:22:02 PM 1009 Views
I thought this was a great read, and I'm sure I've missed a lot, which will make a reread good too. - 15/03/2010 05:16:19 PM 1073 Views
On balance, there IS a love story. Just not quite the one that most people think. - 15/03/2010 09:34:20 PM 1001 Views
I noticed that as well - 15/03/2010 09:42:04 PM 1076 Views
There is a lot of Christian eschatology, too - 15/03/2010 09:46:59 PM 964 Views
Yes - 15/03/2010 11:23:23 PM 1131 Views
My initial thoughts - 15/03/2010 06:02:21 PM 1032 Views
Re: My initial thoughts - 15/03/2010 08:54:15 PM 953 Views
Which idioms were you talking about? - 15/03/2010 09:43:09 PM 1001 Views
Re: Which idioms were you talking about? - 15/03/2010 10:07:23 PM 1029 Views
The names are not quite as hard as it may seem at first - 15/03/2010 09:41:06 PM 947 Views
There appears to be a lull, so some background - How many of you have read anything about - 15/03/2010 08:19:07 PM 968 Views
This is my first novel in that genre, fiction or non. - 15/03/2010 08:22:04 PM 855 Views
I've read bits & pieces. - 15/03/2010 08:33:41 PM 987 Views
Ok, since you're interested, here is some "light" reading for you. Approach with caution. - 15/03/2010 08:47:42 PM 1126 Views
Interestingly, I'm seeing parallels now that I'm reading Gibbon. - 15/03/2010 09:53:15 PM 985 Views
Koenker was mine for Soviet history. - 15/03/2010 10:08:40 PM 1269 Views
Finally got around to reading this. Thanks for sharing. *NM* - 22/03/2010 04:45:24 PM 399 Views
You're welcome. *NM* - 22/03/2010 05:14:26 PM 378 Views
I knew a bit about it. - 15/03/2010 08:36:20 PM 1076 Views
Fiction or non-fiction? - 15/03/2010 09:21:04 PM 1135 Views
Do you mean Ten Days that Shook the World by John Reed? - 15/03/2010 09:54:34 PM 960 Views
Ten...I was typing from memories of close to 15 years ago - 15/03/2010 10:57:05 PM 1006 Views
Either, though specifically I was thinking of non-fiction. - 15/03/2010 10:11:52 PM 1035 Views
That's what I was thinking of when I read it - 15/03/2010 10:59:36 PM 1032 Views
Enough to understand everything easily enough. - 21/04/2010 01:03:54 AM 861 Views
My own personal thoughts on Doctor Zhivago - 15/03/2010 11:44:05 PM 1236 Views
This review has been helpful so far for me. - 23/03/2010 11:39:51 PM 914 Views
Essay I just finished writing on the book - 16/03/2010 01:26:23 AM 1384 Views
I'm really enjoying it. - 16/03/2010 03:05:25 AM 1010 Views
Hey, if I can come late to the party, so can you. *NM* - 21/04/2010 01:04:15 AM 326 Views
I'm still sailing through it - 16/03/2010 09:25:34 PM 1081 Views
Some questions. - 19/03/2010 08:27:38 AM 920 Views
Class can be tricky given the Russian context. - 19/03/2010 05:09:14 PM 1083 Views
Grand. Thanks for the answers. - 20/03/2010 02:33:18 PM 1002 Views
As an addendum to what Greg wrote: - 19/03/2010 05:56:56 PM 986 Views
Re: As an addendum to what Greg wrote: - 20/03/2010 02:36:36 PM 1016 Views
No, Tonya was exiled. It was a fortune of timing. - 20/03/2010 05:22:44 PM 986 Views
The Possessed: Adventures with Russian Books and the People Who Read Them - 21/03/2010 05:34:03 PM 1016 Views
It looks a bit strained to me. - 22/03/2010 03:28:34 AM 895 Views
So far the reviews are pretty glowing, as are the Amazon reviewers. - 22/03/2010 01:44:19 PM 1030 Views
In other news, I read about 100 pages of The Island at the Center of the World. - 22/03/2010 03:48:47 PM 947 Views
I figured that you would like it. - 22/03/2010 05:14:06 PM 1082 Views

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