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My initial thoughts Beqi Send a noteboard - 15/03/2010 06:02:21 PM
I loved reading about the landscapes. How he set up scenes by making you feel the air. Those parts that just described the land as the flew by in the train seemed like time travel. Getting ahead of the war by fleeing to the country side. But it caught up with them. It was really already there. No escape.

My only problem was the changing and shifting of names. But I eventually got the hang of it. I really wish I was fluent in Russian. I'd love to read this book in it's native language. I feel I am missing nuances and cues all the time as I'm reading.

I'm sure reading it again will be easier and more enjoyable after the discussion. :)
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So, let's talk about Doctor Zhivago. Tom - 15/03/2010 12:51:09 PM 1666 Views
I liked it a lot. wahooka - 15/03/2010 03:24:34 PM 953 Views
I mostly agree with your points, but I'm not sure Zhivago was ever disillusioned with revolution. Tom - 15/03/2010 09:19:54 PM 868 Views
Re: I mostly agree with your points, but I'm not sure Zhivago was ever disillusioned with revolution wahooka - 15/03/2010 09:57:29 PM 969 Views
Yes, it's the Soviet state, not the revolution, that he hates. Tom - 15/03/2010 11:16:29 PM 802 Views
I see your point. wahooka - 15/03/2010 11:36:30 PM 889 Views
The idea of revolution was perpetual. In theory, anyway. The Shrike - 16/03/2010 12:30:46 AM 963 Views
So far, so good ranagrande - 15/03/2010 03:58:44 PM 923 Views
There are lots of good quotes. Tom - 15/03/2010 09:20:26 PM 793 Views
I have finally finished it. ranagrande - 22/03/2010 12:31:24 AM 949 Views
There will be more later. Much more. So lets start at the beginning. The Shrike - 15/03/2010 04:22:15 PM 850 Views
... I'm clearly lacking in braincells. Rebekah - 15/03/2010 05:03:35 PM 950 Views
... yes, you moved to scotland? *NM* jh - 15/03/2010 05:42:21 PM 364 Views
It's not contagious! Rebekah - 15/03/2010 05:47:41 PM 781 Views
It probably is. Don't worry, we still like you! *NM* Tom - 15/03/2010 09:55:07 PM 359 Views
I didn't notice the Anna Karenina connection. That's a good point. Tom - 15/03/2010 09:26:41 PM 889 Views
Yes. Perhaps we should tell the non-Russian speakers/readers that the name of the protagonist, The Shrike - 15/03/2010 10:22:39 PM 989 Views
Zhivago is the Church Slavonic genitive singular of живой (zhivoi), "living" Tom - 15/03/2010 11:18:23 PM 836 Views
I knew those Larry - 15/03/2010 11:22:02 PM 925 Views
I thought this was a great read, and I'm sure I've missed a lot, which will make a reread good too. Rebekah - 15/03/2010 05:16:19 PM 985 Views
On balance, there IS a love story. Just not quite the one that most people think. Tom - 15/03/2010 09:34:20 PM 916 Views
I noticed that as well Larry - 15/03/2010 09:42:04 PM 968 Views
There is a lot of Christian eschatology, too Tom - 15/03/2010 09:46:59 PM 888 Views
Yes Larry - 15/03/2010 11:23:23 PM 1027 Views
Yes. This is what I was going to say, just not as articulately. *NM* Rebekah - 15/03/2010 10:12:33 PM 341 Views
My initial thoughts Beqi - 15/03/2010 06:02:21 PM 940 Views
Re: My initial thoughts wahooka - 15/03/2010 08:54:15 PM 869 Views
Which idioms were you talking about? Tom - 15/03/2010 09:43:09 PM 906 Views
Re: Which idioms were you talking about? wahooka - 15/03/2010 10:07:23 PM 885 Views
The names are not quite as hard as it may seem at first Tom - 15/03/2010 09:41:06 PM 874 Views
There appears to be a lull, so some background - How many of you have read anything about The Shrike - 15/03/2010 08:19:07 PM 879 Views
This is my first novel in that genre, fiction or non. Beqi - 15/03/2010 08:22:04 PM 764 Views
I've read bits & pieces. Rebekah - 15/03/2010 08:33:41 PM 909 Views
Ok, since you're interested, here is some "light" reading for you. Approach with caution. The Shrike - 15/03/2010 08:47:42 PM 1028 Views
Interestingly, I'm seeing parallels now that I'm reading Gibbon. Tom - 15/03/2010 09:53:15 PM 892 Views
Koenker was mine for Soviet history. The Shrike - 15/03/2010 10:08:40 PM 1173 Views
Re: Ok, since you're interested, here is some "light" reading for you. Approach with caution. wahooka - 15/03/2010 11:05:22 PM 944 Views
Thank you for calling it "light" reading. The quotation marks were comforting. Tashmere - 17/03/2010 09:56:26 AM 838 Views
I will read and respond to this when I remember to bring my glasses home from work! *NM* Rebekah - 17/03/2010 06:14:31 PM 338 Views
Finally got around to reading this. Thanks for sharing. *NM* Rebekah - 22/03/2010 04:45:24 PM 360 Views
You're welcome. *NM* The Shrike - 22/03/2010 05:14:26 PM 319 Views
I knew a bit about it. wahooka - 15/03/2010 08:36:20 PM 1007 Views
Fiction or non-fiction? Larry - 15/03/2010 09:21:04 PM 1035 Views
Do you mean Ten Days that Shook the World by John Reed? Tom - 15/03/2010 09:54:34 PM 875 Views
Ten...I was typing from memories of close to 15 years ago Larry - 15/03/2010 10:57:05 PM 879 Views
Either, though specifically I was thinking of non-fiction. The Shrike - 15/03/2010 10:11:52 PM 923 Views
That's what I was thinking of when I read it Larry - 15/03/2010 10:59:36 PM 943 Views
Familiar with the history, though I've never exhaustively studied the time period. Jacob - 16/03/2010 02:20:23 PM 939 Views
Enough to understand everything easily enough. Legolas - 21/04/2010 01:03:54 AM 753 Views
My own personal thoughts on Doctor Zhivago Tom - 15/03/2010 11:44:05 PM 1138 Views
This review has been helpful so far for me. Tashmere - 23/03/2010 11:39:51 PM 829 Views
Essay I just finished writing on the book Larry - 16/03/2010 01:26:23 AM 1274 Views
I'm really enjoying it. nossy - 16/03/2010 03:05:25 AM 920 Views
Hey, if I can come late to the party, so can you. *NM* Legolas - 21/04/2010 01:04:15 AM 287 Views
I'm still sailing through it AgentOrange - 16/03/2010 09:25:34 PM 993 Views
Why would you consider this a classic? What made it so good or profound for (plural) you? Tashmere - 16/03/2010 11:19:23 PM 891 Views
Put a question mark at the end of the first sentence and read my response. *NM* Tom - 17/03/2010 12:09:58 AM 326 Views
Some questions. Rebekah - 19/03/2010 08:27:38 AM 839 Views
Class can be tricky given the Russian context. The Shrike - 19/03/2010 05:09:14 PM 1011 Views
Grand. Thanks for the answers. Rebekah - 20/03/2010 02:33:18 PM 871 Views
As an addendum to what Greg wrote: Tom - 19/03/2010 05:56:56 PM 886 Views
Re: As an addendum to what Greg wrote: Rebekah - 20/03/2010 02:36:36 PM 896 Views
No, Tonya was exiled. It was a fortune of timing. Tom - 20/03/2010 05:22:44 PM 910 Views
The Possessed: Adventures with Russian Books and the People Who Read Them The Shrike - 21/03/2010 05:34:03 PM 932 Views
It looks a bit strained to me. Tom - 22/03/2010 03:28:34 AM 822 Views
So far the reviews are pretty glowing, as are the Amazon reviewers. The Shrike - 22/03/2010 01:44:19 PM 920 Views
In other news, I read about 100 pages of The Island at the Center of the World. Tom - 22/03/2010 03:48:47 PM 862 Views
I figured that you would like it. The Shrike - 22/03/2010 05:14:06 PM 996 Views
I finished it last night - the last 100+ pages rather fast, considering how long the whole took. Legolas - 21/04/2010 01:00:50 AM 688 Views
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