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My initial thoughts Beqi Send a noteboard - 15/03/2010 06:02:21 PM
I loved reading about the landscapes. How he set up scenes by making you feel the air. Those parts that just described the land as the flew by in the train seemed like time travel. Getting ahead of the war by fleeing to the country side. But it caught up with them. It was really already there. No escape.

My only problem was the changing and shifting of names. But I eventually got the hang of it. I really wish I was fluent in Russian. I'd love to read this book in it's native language. I feel I am missing nuances and cues all the time as I'm reading.

I'm sure reading it again will be easier and more enjoyable after the discussion. :)
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So, let's talk about Doctor Zhivago. Tom - 15/03/2010 12:51:09 PM 1763 Views
I liked it a lot. wahooka - 15/03/2010 03:24:34 PM 1096 Views
I mostly agree with your points, but I'm not sure Zhivago was ever disillusioned with revolution. Tom - 15/03/2010 09:19:54 PM 946 Views
Re: I mostly agree with your points, but I'm not sure Zhivago was ever disillusioned with revolution wahooka - 15/03/2010 09:57:29 PM 1059 Views
Yes, it's the Soviet state, not the revolution, that he hates. Tom - 15/03/2010 11:16:29 PM 877 Views
I see your point. wahooka - 15/03/2010 11:36:30 PM 990 Views
The idea of revolution was perpetual. In theory, anyway. The Shrike - 16/03/2010 12:30:46 AM 1040 Views
So far, so good ranagrande - 15/03/2010 03:58:44 PM 1016 Views
There are lots of good quotes. Tom - 15/03/2010 09:20:26 PM 862 Views
I have finally finished it. ranagrande - 22/03/2010 12:31:24 AM 1026 Views
There will be more later. Much more. So lets start at the beginning. The Shrike - 15/03/2010 04:22:15 PM 942 Views
... I'm clearly lacking in braincells. Rebekah - 15/03/2010 05:03:35 PM 1037 Views
... yes, you moved to scotland? *NM* jh - 15/03/2010 05:42:21 PM 411 Views
It's not contagious! Rebekah - 15/03/2010 05:47:41 PM 875 Views
It probably is. Don't worry, we still like you! *NM* Tom - 15/03/2010 09:55:07 PM 410 Views
I didn't notice the Anna Karenina connection. That's a good point. Tom - 15/03/2010 09:26:41 PM 959 Views
Yes. Perhaps we should tell the non-Russian speakers/readers that the name of the protagonist, The Shrike - 15/03/2010 10:22:39 PM 1080 Views
Zhivago is the Church Slavonic genitive singular of живой (zhivoi), "living" Tom - 15/03/2010 11:18:23 PM 908 Views
I knew those Larry - 15/03/2010 11:22:02 PM 1010 Views
I thought this was a great read, and I'm sure I've missed a lot, which will make a reread good too. Rebekah - 15/03/2010 05:16:19 PM 1073 Views
On balance, there IS a love story. Just not quite the one that most people think. Tom - 15/03/2010 09:34:20 PM 1001 Views
I noticed that as well Larry - 15/03/2010 09:42:04 PM 1076 Views
There is a lot of Christian eschatology, too Tom - 15/03/2010 09:46:59 PM 964 Views
Yes Larry - 15/03/2010 11:23:23 PM 1131 Views
Yes. This is what I was going to say, just not as articulately. *NM* Rebekah - 15/03/2010 10:12:33 PM 382 Views
My initial thoughts Beqi - 15/03/2010 06:02:21 PM 1033 Views
Re: My initial thoughts wahooka - 15/03/2010 08:54:15 PM 953 Views
Which idioms were you talking about? Tom - 15/03/2010 09:43:09 PM 1001 Views
Re: Which idioms were you talking about? wahooka - 15/03/2010 10:07:23 PM 1029 Views
The names are not quite as hard as it may seem at first Tom - 15/03/2010 09:41:06 PM 947 Views
There appears to be a lull, so some background - How many of you have read anything about The Shrike - 15/03/2010 08:19:07 PM 969 Views
This is my first novel in that genre, fiction or non. Beqi - 15/03/2010 08:22:04 PM 855 Views
I've read bits & pieces. Rebekah - 15/03/2010 08:33:41 PM 988 Views
Ok, since you're interested, here is some "light" reading for you. Approach with caution. The Shrike - 15/03/2010 08:47:42 PM 1127 Views
Interestingly, I'm seeing parallels now that I'm reading Gibbon. Tom - 15/03/2010 09:53:15 PM 986 Views
Koenker was mine for Soviet history. The Shrike - 15/03/2010 10:08:40 PM 1269 Views
Re: Ok, since you're interested, here is some "light" reading for you. Approach with caution. wahooka - 15/03/2010 11:05:22 PM 1045 Views
Thank you for calling it "light" reading. The quotation marks were comforting. Tashmere - 17/03/2010 09:56:26 AM 919 Views
I will read and respond to this when I remember to bring my glasses home from work! *NM* Rebekah - 17/03/2010 06:14:31 PM 372 Views
Finally got around to reading this. Thanks for sharing. *NM* Rebekah - 22/03/2010 04:45:24 PM 399 Views
You're welcome. *NM* The Shrike - 22/03/2010 05:14:26 PM 378 Views
I knew a bit about it. wahooka - 15/03/2010 08:36:20 PM 1076 Views
Fiction or non-fiction? Larry - 15/03/2010 09:21:04 PM 1136 Views
Do you mean Ten Days that Shook the World by John Reed? Tom - 15/03/2010 09:54:34 PM 960 Views
Ten...I was typing from memories of close to 15 years ago Larry - 15/03/2010 10:57:05 PM 1006 Views
Either, though specifically I was thinking of non-fiction. The Shrike - 15/03/2010 10:11:52 PM 1035 Views
That's what I was thinking of when I read it Larry - 15/03/2010 10:59:36 PM 1032 Views
Familiar with the history, though I've never exhaustively studied the time period. Jacob - 16/03/2010 02:20:23 PM 1013 Views
Enough to understand everything easily enough. Legolas - 21/04/2010 01:03:54 AM 861 Views
My own personal thoughts on Doctor Zhivago Tom - 15/03/2010 11:44:05 PM 1236 Views
This review has been helpful so far for me. Tashmere - 23/03/2010 11:39:51 PM 914 Views
Essay I just finished writing on the book Larry - 16/03/2010 01:26:23 AM 1385 Views
I'm really enjoying it. nossy - 16/03/2010 03:05:25 AM 1011 Views
Hey, if I can come late to the party, so can you. *NM* Legolas - 21/04/2010 01:04:15 AM 326 Views
I'm still sailing through it AgentOrange - 16/03/2010 09:25:34 PM 1081 Views
Why would you consider this a classic? What made it so good or profound for (plural) you? Tashmere - 16/03/2010 11:19:23 PM 995 Views
Put a question mark at the end of the first sentence and read my response. *NM* Tom - 17/03/2010 12:09:58 AM 375 Views
Some questions. Rebekah - 19/03/2010 08:27:38 AM 921 Views
Class can be tricky given the Russian context. The Shrike - 19/03/2010 05:09:14 PM 1083 Views
Grand. Thanks for the answers. Rebekah - 20/03/2010 02:33:18 PM 1002 Views
As an addendum to what Greg wrote: Tom - 19/03/2010 05:56:56 PM 986 Views
Re: As an addendum to what Greg wrote: Rebekah - 20/03/2010 02:36:36 PM 1016 Views
No, Tonya was exiled. It was a fortune of timing. Tom - 20/03/2010 05:22:44 PM 986 Views
The Possessed: Adventures with Russian Books and the People Who Read Them The Shrike - 21/03/2010 05:34:03 PM 1016 Views
It looks a bit strained to me. Tom - 22/03/2010 03:28:34 AM 896 Views
So far the reviews are pretty glowing, as are the Amazon reviewers. The Shrike - 22/03/2010 01:44:19 PM 1030 Views
In other news, I read about 100 pages of The Island at the Center of the World. Tom - 22/03/2010 03:48:47 PM 947 Views
I figured that you would like it. The Shrike - 22/03/2010 05:14:06 PM 1083 Views
I finished it last night - the last 100+ pages rather fast, considering how long the whole took. Legolas - 21/04/2010 01:00:50 AM 774 Views
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