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Confusing likability with goodness Beqi Send a noteboard - 18/03/2010 08:59:40 PM
I think that may be the issue. Arya and Robert are likable. And we want the people we like, who seem good, to be good. There are villains like Jaime who are evil and we like him anyway, though more people are trying to make him good now that he is more likable. Cersei and Theon, in my opinion, were never likable so it is easy to put them in the evil category and leave them there. Robert was kind of a weenie evil guy.
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ASoI&F Quickpoll: Evil characters Cannoli - 18/03/2010 02:04:24 PM 1619 Views
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Re: ASoI&F Quickpoll: Evil characters Macharius - 18/03/2010 06:34:29 PM 991 Views
Exactly. Werthead - 18/03/2010 09:07:56 PM 1039 Views
I have never heard anyone defend Cersei. Tom - 18/03/2010 07:04:33 PM 1033 Views
Confusing likability with goodness Beqi - 18/03/2010 08:59:40 PM 1039 Views
Arya may not be "good"... ironclad - 18/03/2010 09:15:46 PM 1074 Views
Do you think a child can be evil? *NM* Beqi - 18/03/2010 09:18:06 PM 460 Views
We sometimes hear about kids doing horrible things ironclad - 18/03/2010 09:41:30 PM 915 Views
Is that because they may not understand the consequences of their actions? Beqi - 18/03/2010 09:45:33 PM 1000 Views
Most likely, yes. Plus their reasons for doing bad things lack deeper inferior motives. ironclad - 18/03/2010 10:09:25 PM 1043 Views
Arya is old enough to understand cause and effect... Napoleon62 - 18/03/2010 11:04:31 PM 1149 Views
Soldiers do the same thing. LadyLorraine - 19/03/2010 03:23:35 AM 952 Views
Just what I was about to say, yeah *NM* ironclad - 19/03/2010 07:55:47 AM 420 Views
Soldiers kill for the sake of their country, their cause, or their hope... Napoleon62 - 19/03/2010 11:24:16 PM 1384 Views
Re: Soldiers kill for the sake of their country, their cause, or their hope... LadyLorraine - 20/03/2010 12:29:55 AM 977 Views
Arya is not a soldier. Soldiers are not individually responsible for the results of war. Cannoli - 20/03/2010 11:22:43 PM 1144 Views
Arya is legitimately the most evil... Napoleon62 - 18/03/2010 09:45:04 PM 1345 Views
No, she's not A Deathwatch Guard - 18/03/2010 11:45:23 PM 982 Views
Cersei doesn't have true justification Napoleon62 - 18/03/2010 11:47:44 PM 1123 Views
what makes ambition better? LadyLorraine - 19/03/2010 03:30:04 AM 943 Views
*nods* ironclad - 19/03/2010 07:58:31 AM 1055 Views
what he said! especially about Cersei being seriously mentally ill *NM* imlad - 19/03/2010 04:38:19 AM 385 Views
Re: Arya is legitimately the most evil... Cannoli - 19/03/2010 10:50:56 PM 966 Views
I was looking forward to his response as well. LadyLorraine - 19/03/2010 11:13:35 PM 1094 Views
Nope Cannoli - 20/03/2010 10:23:19 PM 1130 Views
to be accurate, the child was not yet disabled when he was pushed from the tower imlad - 20/03/2010 10:52:42 PM 1079 Views
ah, thank you. it's been a while since I read that bit *NM* LadyLorraine - 21/03/2010 02:58:10 AM 406 Views
Evil is such a limiting term to use. Werthead - 20/03/2010 12:18:24 PM 960 Views
Try reading the books Cannoli - 20/03/2010 10:50:01 PM 1180 Views
just out of curiousity LadyLorraine - 21/03/2010 03:01:02 AM 1028 Views
Sort of. Cannoli - 22/03/2010 11:37:04 PM 949 Views
I've read them a few times. Werthead - 21/03/2010 01:47:52 PM 1038 Views
Just a "few" times? fionwe1987 - 21/03/2010 06:07:14 PM 1080 Views
Only three times. Werthead - 21/03/2010 11:20:12 PM 986 Views
Who is Jon Connington? Napoleon62 - 22/03/2010 01:30:44 AM 1143 Views
Jon Connington- Hand to Aerys. Lost to Hoster, Eddard and Robert. Exiled. *NM* fionwe1987 - 22/03/2010 04:09:59 AM 491 Views
people seem to be forgetting imlad - 21/03/2010 09:11:04 PM 1101 Views
Some of that is BS... fionwe1987 - 22/03/2010 04:18:06 AM 1021 Views
Thank you. Cannoli - 23/03/2010 01:59:38 AM 1023 Views
*NM* fionwe1987 - 23/03/2010 03:58:24 AM 378 Views
ROFLMAO. Most people complain that my values are medieval & out of touch with the modern world! Cannoli - 23/03/2010 01:54:58 AM 1379 Views
It really shocks that I'm going to say this. LadyLorraine - 23/03/2010 03:23:28 AM 950 Views
To clarify, "evil" means VERY, VERY BAD. Cannoli - 23/03/2010 01:12:39 AM 1198 Views
your problem is you seem equate legality with morality imlad - 24/03/2010 04:07:42 AM 939 Views
I was responding to someone ELSE making that error Cannoli - 24/03/2010 03:13:36 PM 1218 Views
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