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Confusing likability with goodness Beqi Send a noteboard - 18/03/2010 08:59:40 PM
I think that may be the issue. Arya and Robert are likable. And we want the people we like, who seem good, to be good. There are villains like Jaime who are evil and we like him anyway, though more people are trying to make him good now that he is more likable. Cersei and Theon, in my opinion, were never likable so it is easy to put them in the evil category and leave them there. Robert was kind of a weenie evil guy.
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ASoI&F Quickpoll: Evil characters Cannoli - 18/03/2010 02:04:24 PM 1572 Views
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Re: ASoI&F Quickpoll: Evil characters Macharius - 18/03/2010 06:34:29 PM 929 Views
Exactly. Werthead - 18/03/2010 09:07:56 PM 987 Views
I have never heard anyone defend Cersei. Tom - 18/03/2010 07:04:33 PM 980 Views
Confusing likability with goodness Beqi - 18/03/2010 08:59:40 PM 984 Views
Arya may not be "good"... ironclad - 18/03/2010 09:15:46 PM 1025 Views
Do you think a child can be evil? *NM* Beqi - 18/03/2010 09:18:06 PM 427 Views
We sometimes hear about kids doing horrible things ironclad - 18/03/2010 09:41:30 PM 864 Views
Is that because they may not understand the consequences of their actions? Beqi - 18/03/2010 09:45:33 PM 948 Views
Most likely, yes. Plus their reasons for doing bad things lack deeper inferior motives. ironclad - 18/03/2010 10:09:25 PM 986 Views
Arya is old enough to understand cause and effect... Napoleon62 - 18/03/2010 11:04:31 PM 1083 Views
Soldiers do the same thing. LadyLorraine - 19/03/2010 03:23:35 AM 909 Views
Just what I was about to say, yeah *NM* ironclad - 19/03/2010 07:55:47 AM 390 Views
Soldiers kill for the sake of their country, their cause, or their hope... Napoleon62 - 19/03/2010 11:24:16 PM 1312 Views
Re: Soldiers kill for the sake of their country, their cause, or their hope... LadyLorraine - 20/03/2010 12:29:55 AM 921 Views
Arya is not a soldier. Soldiers are not individually responsible for the results of war. Cannoli - 20/03/2010 11:22:43 PM 1087 Views
Arya is legitimately the most evil... Napoleon62 - 18/03/2010 09:45:04 PM 1274 Views
No, she's not A Deathwatch Guard - 18/03/2010 11:45:23 PM 920 Views
Cersei doesn't have true justification Napoleon62 - 18/03/2010 11:47:44 PM 1053 Views
what makes ambition better? LadyLorraine - 19/03/2010 03:30:04 AM 889 Views
*nods* ironclad - 19/03/2010 07:58:31 AM 1010 Views
what he said! especially about Cersei being seriously mentally ill *NM* imlad - 19/03/2010 04:38:19 AM 354 Views
Re: Arya is legitimately the most evil... Cannoli - 19/03/2010 10:50:56 PM 906 Views
I was looking forward to his response as well. LadyLorraine - 19/03/2010 11:13:35 PM 1038 Views
Nope Cannoli - 20/03/2010 10:23:19 PM 1084 Views
to be accurate, the child was not yet disabled when he was pushed from the tower imlad - 20/03/2010 10:52:42 PM 1019 Views
ah, thank you. it's been a while since I read that bit *NM* LadyLorraine - 21/03/2010 02:58:10 AM 378 Views
Evil is such a limiting term to use. Werthead - 20/03/2010 12:18:24 PM 897 Views
Try reading the books Cannoli - 20/03/2010 10:50:01 PM 1117 Views
just out of curiousity LadyLorraine - 21/03/2010 03:01:02 AM 979 Views
Sort of. Cannoli - 22/03/2010 11:37:04 PM 887 Views
I've read them a few times. Werthead - 21/03/2010 01:47:52 PM 985 Views
Just a "few" times? fionwe1987 - 21/03/2010 06:07:14 PM 1026 Views
Only three times. Werthead - 21/03/2010 11:20:12 PM 928 Views
Who is Jon Connington? Napoleon62 - 22/03/2010 01:30:44 AM 1070 Views
Jon Connington- Hand to Aerys. Lost to Hoster, Eddard and Robert. Exiled. *NM* fionwe1987 - 22/03/2010 04:09:59 AM 458 Views
people seem to be forgetting imlad - 21/03/2010 09:11:04 PM 1044 Views
Some of that is BS... fionwe1987 - 22/03/2010 04:18:06 AM 961 Views
Thank you. Cannoli - 23/03/2010 01:59:38 AM 964 Views
*NM* fionwe1987 - 23/03/2010 03:58:24 AM 348 Views
ROFLMAO. Most people complain that my values are medieval & out of touch with the modern world! Cannoli - 23/03/2010 01:54:58 AM 1323 Views
It really shocks that I'm going to say this. LadyLorraine - 23/03/2010 03:23:28 AM 888 Views
To clarify, "evil" means VERY, VERY BAD. Cannoli - 23/03/2010 01:12:39 AM 1144 Views
your problem is you seem equate legality with morality imlad - 24/03/2010 04:07:42 AM 879 Views
I was responding to someone ELSE making that error Cannoli - 24/03/2010 03:13:36 PM 1147 Views
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