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Confusing likability with goodness Beqi Send a noteboard - 18/03/2010 08:59:40 PM
I think that may be the issue. Arya and Robert are likable. And we want the people we like, who seem good, to be good. There are villains like Jaime who are evil and we like him anyway, though more people are trying to make him good now that he is more likable. Cersei and Theon, in my opinion, were never likable so it is easy to put them in the evil category and leave them there. Robert was kind of a weenie evil guy.
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ASoI&F Quickpoll: Evil characters Cannoli - 18/03/2010 02:04:24 PM 1573 Views
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Re: ASoI&F Quickpoll: Evil characters Macharius - 18/03/2010 06:34:29 PM 930 Views
Exactly. Werthead - 18/03/2010 09:07:56 PM 989 Views
I have never heard anyone defend Cersei. Tom - 18/03/2010 07:04:33 PM 983 Views
Confusing likability with goodness Beqi - 18/03/2010 08:59:40 PM 986 Views
Arya may not be "good"... ironclad - 18/03/2010 09:15:46 PM 1028 Views
Do you think a child can be evil? *NM* Beqi - 18/03/2010 09:18:06 PM 427 Views
We sometimes hear about kids doing horrible things ironclad - 18/03/2010 09:41:30 PM 865 Views
Is that because they may not understand the consequences of their actions? Beqi - 18/03/2010 09:45:33 PM 949 Views
Most likely, yes. Plus their reasons for doing bad things lack deeper inferior motives. ironclad - 18/03/2010 10:09:25 PM 987 Views
Arya is old enough to understand cause and effect... Napoleon62 - 18/03/2010 11:04:31 PM 1084 Views
Soldiers do the same thing. LadyLorraine - 19/03/2010 03:23:35 AM 910 Views
Just what I was about to say, yeah *NM* ironclad - 19/03/2010 07:55:47 AM 390 Views
Soldiers kill for the sake of their country, their cause, or their hope... Napoleon62 - 19/03/2010 11:24:16 PM 1314 Views
Re: Soldiers kill for the sake of their country, their cause, or their hope... LadyLorraine - 20/03/2010 12:29:55 AM 923 Views
Arya is not a soldier. Soldiers are not individually responsible for the results of war. Cannoli - 20/03/2010 11:22:43 PM 1089 Views
Arya is legitimately the most evil... Napoleon62 - 18/03/2010 09:45:04 PM 1274 Views
No, she's not A Deathwatch Guard - 18/03/2010 11:45:23 PM 921 Views
Cersei doesn't have true justification Napoleon62 - 18/03/2010 11:47:44 PM 1055 Views
what makes ambition better? LadyLorraine - 19/03/2010 03:30:04 AM 891 Views
*nods* ironclad - 19/03/2010 07:58:31 AM 1012 Views
what he said! especially about Cersei being seriously mentally ill *NM* imlad - 19/03/2010 04:38:19 AM 354 Views
Re: Arya is legitimately the most evil... Cannoli - 19/03/2010 10:50:56 PM 908 Views
I was looking forward to his response as well. LadyLorraine - 19/03/2010 11:13:35 PM 1040 Views
Nope Cannoli - 20/03/2010 10:23:19 PM 1085 Views
to be accurate, the child was not yet disabled when he was pushed from the tower imlad - 20/03/2010 10:52:42 PM 1021 Views
ah, thank you. it's been a while since I read that bit *NM* LadyLorraine - 21/03/2010 02:58:10 AM 378 Views
Evil is such a limiting term to use. Werthead - 20/03/2010 12:18:24 PM 898 Views
Try reading the books Cannoli - 20/03/2010 10:50:01 PM 1118 Views
just out of curiousity LadyLorraine - 21/03/2010 03:01:02 AM 980 Views
Sort of. Cannoli - 22/03/2010 11:37:04 PM 888 Views
I've read them a few times. Werthead - 21/03/2010 01:47:52 PM 987 Views
Just a "few" times? fionwe1987 - 21/03/2010 06:07:14 PM 1028 Views
Only three times. Werthead - 21/03/2010 11:20:12 PM 929 Views
Who is Jon Connington? Napoleon62 - 22/03/2010 01:30:44 AM 1072 Views
Jon Connington- Hand to Aerys. Lost to Hoster, Eddard and Robert. Exiled. *NM* fionwe1987 - 22/03/2010 04:09:59 AM 458 Views
people seem to be forgetting imlad - 21/03/2010 09:11:04 PM 1045 Views
Some of that is BS... fionwe1987 - 22/03/2010 04:18:06 AM 963 Views
Thank you. Cannoli - 23/03/2010 01:59:38 AM 964 Views
*NM* fionwe1987 - 23/03/2010 03:58:24 AM 348 Views
ROFLMAO. Most people complain that my values are medieval & out of touch with the modern world! Cannoli - 23/03/2010 01:54:58 AM 1324 Views
It really shocks that I'm going to say this. LadyLorraine - 23/03/2010 03:23:28 AM 890 Views
To clarify, "evil" means VERY, VERY BAD. Cannoli - 23/03/2010 01:12:39 AM 1145 Views
your problem is you seem equate legality with morality imlad - 24/03/2010 04:07:42 AM 881 Views
I was responding to someone ELSE making that error Cannoli - 24/03/2010 03:13:36 PM 1147 Views
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