...did you read the article? They aren't in the military any more. *NM*
Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 21/04/2010 05:31:02 AM
Six U.S. military veterans chained themselves to the White House fence Tuesday afternoon in order to protest the "don't ask, don't tell" policy. Participants, who were removed from the fence and arrested around 1 p.m., included Lt. Dan Choi (pictured) and Capt. Jim Pietrangelo, who were arrested in a similar action last month.
The Advocate's Washington correspondent Kerry Eleveld tweeted from the scene around noon Tuesday:
"6 vets just handcuffed themselves to the WH gates again protesting."
By 1 p.m., according to Eleveld, all the activists had been removed from the fence and placed in a police vehicle about to leave the scene.
Guys, this is not the way to make your point. Using your uniform to make a political point offends me. The military should be a completely non-political organization. You knew the policy when you signed up, so if you're going to fight it, get out and fight it from the outside.
And for the record, if I am lying by the road bleeding, I don't care if the medic coming to save me is gay. I just hope he is one of those buff gay guys who are always in the gym so he can throw me over his shoulder and get me out of there.
The Advocate's Washington correspondent Kerry Eleveld tweeted from the scene around noon Tuesday:
"6 vets just handcuffed themselves to the WH gates again protesting."
By 1 p.m., according to Eleveld, all the activists had been removed from the fence and placed in a police vehicle about to leave the scene.
Guys, this is not the way to make your point. Using your uniform to make a political point offends me. The military should be a completely non-political organization. You knew the policy when you signed up, so if you're going to fight it, get out and fight it from the outside.
And for the record, if I am lying by the road bleeding, I don't care if the medic coming to save me is gay. I just hope he is one of those buff gay guys who are always in the gym so he can throw me over his shoulder and get me out of there.
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I'm in favor of repealing DADT, but this made me briefly reconsider
- 21/04/2010 05:29:45 AM
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...did you read the article? They aren't in the military any more. *NM*
- 21/04/2010 05:31:02 AM
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Really? A few months ago Lt. Choi was still in the military, I didn't realize he'd been discharged
- 21/04/2010 05:37:47 AM
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No, in or out it's a no-go
- 21/04/2010 05:48:25 AM
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There needs to be a rule that stops soldiers from wearing uniforms in bars
- 21/04/2010 06:55:37 AM
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Grabbing a beer with the guys after work is a pretty normal thing
- 21/04/2010 07:45:16 AM
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I've seen it.
- 21/04/2010 12:52:59 PM
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Not a very fair way to look at it
- 21/04/2010 02:10:47 PM
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perhaps not on its own
- 21/04/2010 07:06:09 PM
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Sadly that's not that uncommon
- 21/04/2010 07:27:45 PM
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to be honest, I've probably met plenty of wonderful military people in the bars
- 21/04/2010 07:41:30 PM
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every think the problem might be the uptight college kids? *NM*
- 22/04/2010 05:10:08 PM
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Excepting possibly finals period, I'm pretty sure "uptight college kid" is an oxymoron. *NM*
- 22/04/2010 07:07:58 PM
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uptight college kids don't go drink in Aggieville.
- 22/04/2010 07:17:17 PM
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The navy and Marine do have rules against it at least for working uniforms
- 21/04/2010 04:06:10 PM
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Like Buzz Aldrin wearing his on Dancing with the Stars. Ugh. *NM*
- 21/04/2010 02:37:59 PM
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well that was an air force uniform so it really doesn't count as military
- 21/04/2010 04:00:27 PM
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- 21/04/2010 04:00:27 PM
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I'll remind you of that next time you want air support ;-)
- 21/04/2010 06:00:32 PM
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I am a Marine we have our own air support
- 21/04/2010 06:15:01 PM
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- 21/04/2010 06:15:01 PM
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Yeah - some of it pretty good too but still all small stuff
- 21/04/2010 07:26:12 PM
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The F/A18 does OK
- 21/04/2010 10:11:13 PM
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It's all right, but not the best choice
- 22/04/2010 04:30:07 PM
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Hm. That seems to violate some significant 1st Amendment rights.
- 21/04/2010 07:00:59 PM
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you forget that the military sign away their rights. *NM*
- 21/04/2010 07:06:52 PM
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That's why I specified dishonorably discharged. They're no longer in the military.
- 21/04/2010 08:43:22 PM
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*shrug* sorry, I'm a bit cynical over how much the military EVER lets go.
- 21/04/2010 10:13:51 PM
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Re: I'm in favor of repealing DADT, but this made me briefly reconsider
- 21/04/2010 05:36:48 AM
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Not in uniform.
- 21/04/2010 05:38:50 AM
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oh puhlease
- 21/04/2010 05:43:15 AM
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It's not a just a piece of clothing, but I guess we'll agree to disagree on that.
- 21/04/2010 05:45:52 AM
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and another thing
- 21/04/2010 05:38:53 AM
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I'm on their side, BUT
- 21/04/2010 05:44:00 AM
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Well... it's a military policy. If they were protesting animal cruelty while wearing it, I'd agree
- 21/04/2010 06:53:36 AM
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What beetnemesis said. They're not talking about rights for all gays, but rights for gay soldiers.
- 21/04/2010 09:54:09 AM
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It's peaceful and non-violent. I see nothing wrong with them making their point in this in addition
- 21/04/2010 02:12:54 PM
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A soldier protesting a military doctrine has the right.
- 21/04/2010 02:28:40 PM
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they don't have the right to use the uniform to make that free expression *NM*
- 21/04/2010 02:39:45 PM
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Take it up with congress, the regulations are clear, no such right exists, it is expressly banned *NM*
- 21/04/2010 02:46:14 PM
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The uniform isn't just handed to you after Basic with no strings attached.
- 21/04/2010 03:04:32 PM
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The funny thing about it is
- 21/04/2010 03:35:51 PM
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Re: The funny thing about it is
- 21/04/2010 10:12:57 PM
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Actually -the question isn't right
- 22/04/2010 04:38:03 PM
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I think your attitude is likely to be common among active duty and vets alike.
- 21/04/2010 02:44:29 PM
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Actually, darlin', we don't have to convince them.
- 21/04/2010 03:34:49 PM
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very true
- 21/04/2010 03:51:49 PM
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But these men didn't disrespect anything.
- 21/04/2010 04:09:20 PM
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the problem is uniforms are about more than everyone dressing the same
- 21/04/2010 05:55:31 PM
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The statistics show that nearly 70% of Americans think gay men and women should serve openly.
- 21/04/2010 04:14:33 PM
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And going back to the Truman example, he doesn't even have to show Truman's courage.
- 21/04/2010 04:17:02 PM
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Re: And going back to the Truman example, he doesn't even have to show Truman's courage.
- 21/04/2010 04:25:46 PM
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That dude is all talk about everything.
- 21/04/2010 04:27:07 PM
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Well he wasn't all talk about Health care
- 22/04/2010 04:44:39 PM
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Yes, the main thing he has followed through on is the most disastrous.
- 22/04/2010 04:59:45 PM
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Civil disobedience against immoral government action often involves breaking the rules. *NM*
- 21/04/2010 03:37:36 PM
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Wow,
- 21/04/2010 04:04:42 PM
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I'm sure female protesters made a lot of people reconsider the suffrage movement.
- 21/04/2010 04:09:37 PM
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The bravey of those men is exactly what that 'clothing' stands for.
- 21/04/2010 04:20:19 PM
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