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Thing is though SilverWarder Send a noteboard - 21/04/2010 03:31:05 PM
They signed up for an organization that is supposed to be) apolitical for a reason. Active duty military members can NOT be allowed to exploit their position to push a political agenda, no matter which side they're on. Which is why that Birther asshat who is refusing to deploy needs to be punished ASAP.


While the military claims to be apolitical it is not and never had been.

By virtue of the people in it, it has very strong conservative ties. Those people who make the decisions as to what the uniform may be worn for off duty are only sometimes apolitical in their final position. All too frequently the military winds up being shown in ways that certainly appear political because the people with the power to approve such matters do so based on their own biases.

And yes, as a USAF Veteran I've seen that in action a couple of times.
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I'm in favor of repealing DADT, but this made me briefly reconsider beckstcw - 21/04/2010 05:29:45 AM 1349 Views
...did you read the article? They aren't in the military any more. *NM* Ghavrel - 21/04/2010 05:31:02 AM 398 Views
Really? A few months ago Lt. Choi was still in the military, I didn't realize he'd been discharged beckstcw - 21/04/2010 05:37:47 AM 858 Views
No, in or out it's a no-go Isaac - 21/04/2010 05:48:25 AM 851 Views
There needs to be a rule that stops soldiers from wearing uniforms in bars beetnemesis - 21/04/2010 06:55:37 AM 788 Views
But if you aren't wearing your uniform at the bar... beckstcw - 21/04/2010 06:58:33 AM 786 Views
You wear a big sign that says I'M AWESOME: ASK ME HOW *NM* beetnemesis - 21/04/2010 07:01:45 AM 364 Views
Grabbing a beer with the guys after work is a pretty normal thing Isaac - 21/04/2010 07:45:16 AM 807 Views
I've seen it. LadyLorraine - 21/04/2010 12:52:59 PM 790 Views
Not a very fair way to look at it Isaac - 21/04/2010 02:10:47 PM 828 Views
perhaps not on its own LadyLorraine - 21/04/2010 07:06:09 PM 759 Views
Sadly that's not that uncommon SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 07:27:45 PM 870 Views
to be honest, I've probably met plenty of wonderful military people in the bars LadyLorraine - 21/04/2010 07:41:30 PM 820 Views
Could be. SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 04:45:29 PM 786 Views
every think the problem might be the uptight college kids? *NM* random thoughts - 22/04/2010 05:10:08 PM 344 Views
Excepting possibly finals period, I'm pretty sure "uptight college kid" is an oxymoron. *NM* Ghavrel - 22/04/2010 07:07:58 PM 354 Views
uptight college kids don't go drink in Aggieville. LadyLorraine - 22/04/2010 07:17:17 PM 1016 Views
maybe I should have said stuck up college kids random thoughts - 22/04/2010 08:29:18 PM 929 Views
Uhm, no, college towns can be quite different. LadyLorraine - 22/04/2010 10:13:41 PM 741 Views
The navy and Marine do have rules against it at least for working uniforms random thoughts - 21/04/2010 04:06:10 PM 823 Views
Like Buzz Aldrin wearing his on Dancing with the Stars. Ugh. *NM* Sareitha Sedai - 21/04/2010 02:37:59 PM 372 Views
I'll bet he got permission to do that though. SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 03:26:43 PM 804 Views
well that was an air force uniform so it really doesn't count as military random thoughts - 21/04/2010 04:00:27 PM 975 Views
I'll remind you of that next time you want air support ;-) SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 06:00:32 PM 840 Views
I am a Marine we have our own air support random thoughts - 21/04/2010 06:15:01 PM 761 Views
Yeah - some of it pretty good too but still all small stuff SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 07:26:12 PM 794 Views
The F/A18 does OK random thoughts - 21/04/2010 10:11:13 PM 725 Views
It's all right, but not the best choice SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 04:30:07 PM 791 Views
jack of all trades pretty much defines the Marines random thoughts - 22/04/2010 05:13:21 PM 1152 Views
Oh not entirely SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 09:54:21 PM 1071 Views
I second that UGH *NM* Aisha - 21/04/2010 10:30:35 PM 348 Views
Hm. That seems to violate some significant 1st Amendment rights. Ghavrel - 21/04/2010 07:00:59 PM 770 Views
you forget that the military sign away their rights. *NM* LadyLorraine - 21/04/2010 07:06:52 PM 379 Views
That's why I specified dishonorably discharged. They're no longer in the military. Ghavrel - 21/04/2010 08:43:22 PM 807 Views
*shrug* sorry, I'm a bit cynical over how much the military EVER lets go. LadyLorraine - 21/04/2010 10:13:51 PM 765 Views
Re: I'm in favor of repealing DADT, but this made me briefly reconsider Aisha - 21/04/2010 05:36:48 AM 789 Views
Not in uniform. beckstcw - 21/04/2010 05:38:50 AM 912 Views
oh puhlease Aisha - 21/04/2010 05:43:15 AM 845 Views
It's not a just a piece of clothing, but I guess we'll agree to disagree on that. beckstcw - 21/04/2010 05:45:52 AM 825 Views
I agree with you, Aisha. The Shrike - 21/04/2010 02:15:30 PM 969 Views
and another thing Aisha - 21/04/2010 05:38:53 AM 821 Views
I'm on their side, BUT beckstcw - 21/04/2010 05:44:00 AM 799 Views
Re: I'm on their side, BUT Aisha - 21/04/2010 05:57:50 AM 865 Views
Like I said, we simply disagree *NM* beckstcw - 21/04/2010 06:35:27 AM 395 Views
Thing is though SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 03:31:05 PM 900 Views
Well... it's a military policy. If they were protesting animal cruelty while wearing it, I'd agree beetnemesis - 21/04/2010 06:53:36 AM 1000 Views
What beetnemesis said. They're not talking about rights for all gays, but rights for gay soldiers. Tim - 21/04/2010 09:54:09 AM 763 Views
Sounds a bit like they are damned either way snoopcester - 21/04/2010 11:01:36 AM 806 Views
It's peaceful and non-violent. I see nothing wrong with them making their point in this in addition The Shrike - 21/04/2010 02:12:54 PM 762 Views
A soldier protesting a military doctrine has the right. Dannymac - 21/04/2010 02:28:40 PM 876 Views
Re: A soldier protesting a military doctrine has the right. Aisha - 21/04/2010 02:34:34 PM 798 Views
they don't have the right to use the uniform to make that free expression *NM* random thoughts - 21/04/2010 02:39:45 PM 340 Views
Take it up with congress, the regulations are clear, no such right exists, it is expressly banned *NM* Isaac - 21/04/2010 02:46:14 PM 309 Views
The uniform isn't just handed to you after Basic with no strings attached. beckstcw - 21/04/2010 03:04:32 PM 849 Views
The funny thing about it is SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 03:35:51 PM 904 Views
Re: The funny thing about it is Bored - 21/04/2010 10:12:57 PM 764 Views
Actually -the question isn't right SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 04:38:03 PM 671 Views
What's bugging me is that Choi is still in Isaac - 22/04/2010 04:44:50 PM 735 Views
Is he? SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 04:47:37 PM 804 Views
Apparently Isaac - 22/04/2010 05:12:44 PM 908 Views
I think your attitude is likely to be common among active duty and vets alike. Sareitha Sedai - 21/04/2010 02:44:29 PM 790 Views
Actually, darlin', we don't have to convince them. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 03:34:49 PM 787 Views
very true random thoughts - 21/04/2010 03:51:49 PM 808 Views
But these men didn't disrespect anything. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 04:09:20 PM 853 Views
the problem is uniforms are about more than everyone dressing the same random thoughts - 21/04/2010 05:55:31 PM 840 Views
The statistics show that nearly 70% of Americans think gay men and women should serve openly. The Shrike - 21/04/2010 04:14:33 PM 752 Views
And going back to the Truman example, he doesn't even have to show Truman's courage. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 04:17:02 PM 782 Views
Re: And going back to the Truman example, he doesn't even have to show Truman's courage. The Shrike - 21/04/2010 04:25:46 PM 807 Views
That dude is all talk about everything. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 04:27:07 PM 911 Views
Well he wasn't all talk about Health care SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 04:44:39 PM 864 Views
Yes, the main thing he has followed through on is the most disastrous. LiterateDog - 22/04/2010 04:59:45 PM 655 Views
Well, I'm not convinced on that SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 10:02:58 PM 1114 Views
and I think they will get it random thoughts - 21/04/2010 06:05:07 PM 912 Views
Civil disobedience against immoral government action often involves breaking the rules. *NM* LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 03:37:36 PM 378 Views
Wow, The Shrike - 21/04/2010 04:04:42 PM 780 Views
I'm sure female protesters made a lot of people reconsider the suffrage movement. Dreaded Anomaly - 21/04/2010 04:09:37 PM 931 Views
Le sigh. The Shrike - 21/04/2010 04:16:17 PM 750 Views
The bravey of those men is exactly what that 'clothing' stands for. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 04:20:19 PM 863 Views
The above post was sarcasm, in case that wasn't clear... Dreaded Anomaly - 21/04/2010 04:43:44 PM 842 Views
I knew it was sarcasm. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 04:54:11 PM 766 Views
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