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Thing is though SilverWarder Send a noteboard - 21/04/2010 03:31:05 PM
They signed up for an organization that is supposed to be) apolitical for a reason. Active duty military members can NOT be allowed to exploit their position to push a political agenda, no matter which side they're on. Which is why that Birther asshat who is refusing to deploy needs to be punished ASAP.


While the military claims to be apolitical it is not and never had been.

By virtue of the people in it, it has very strong conservative ties. Those people who make the decisions as to what the uniform may be worn for off duty are only sometimes apolitical in their final position. All too frequently the military winds up being shown in ways that certainly appear political because the people with the power to approve such matters do so based on their own biases.

And yes, as a USAF Veteran I've seen that in action a couple of times.
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I'm in favor of repealing DADT, but this made me briefly reconsider beckstcw - 21/04/2010 05:29:45 AM 1469 Views
...did you read the article? They aren't in the military any more. *NM* Ghavrel - 21/04/2010 05:31:02 AM 440 Views
Really? A few months ago Lt. Choi was still in the military, I didn't realize he'd been discharged beckstcw - 21/04/2010 05:37:47 AM 963 Views
No, in or out it's a no-go Isaac - 21/04/2010 05:48:25 AM 966 Views
There needs to be a rule that stops soldiers from wearing uniforms in bars beetnemesis - 21/04/2010 06:55:37 AM 908 Views
But if you aren't wearing your uniform at the bar... beckstcw - 21/04/2010 06:58:33 AM 899 Views
You wear a big sign that says I'M AWESOME: ASK ME HOW *NM* beetnemesis - 21/04/2010 07:01:45 AM 404 Views
Grabbing a beer with the guys after work is a pretty normal thing Isaac - 21/04/2010 07:45:16 AM 903 Views
I've seen it. LadyLorraine - 21/04/2010 12:52:59 PM 887 Views
Not a very fair way to look at it Isaac - 21/04/2010 02:10:47 PM 942 Views
perhaps not on its own LadyLorraine - 21/04/2010 07:06:09 PM 865 Views
Sadly that's not that uncommon SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 07:27:45 PM 967 Views
to be honest, I've probably met plenty of wonderful military people in the bars LadyLorraine - 21/04/2010 07:41:30 PM 957 Views
Could be. SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 04:45:29 PM 899 Views
every think the problem might be the uptight college kids? *NM* random thoughts - 22/04/2010 05:10:08 PM 386 Views
Excepting possibly finals period, I'm pretty sure "uptight college kid" is an oxymoron. *NM* Ghavrel - 22/04/2010 07:07:58 PM 403 Views
uptight college kids don't go drink in Aggieville. LadyLorraine - 22/04/2010 07:17:17 PM 1124 Views
maybe I should have said stuck up college kids random thoughts - 22/04/2010 08:29:18 PM 1029 Views
Uhm, no, college towns can be quite different. LadyLorraine - 22/04/2010 10:13:41 PM 858 Views
The navy and Marine do have rules against it at least for working uniforms random thoughts - 21/04/2010 04:06:10 PM 940 Views
Like Buzz Aldrin wearing his on Dancing with the Stars. Ugh. *NM* Sareitha Sedai - 21/04/2010 02:37:59 PM 415 Views
I'll bet he got permission to do that though. SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 03:26:43 PM 903 Views
well that was an air force uniform so it really doesn't count as military random thoughts - 21/04/2010 04:00:27 PM 1077 Views
I'll remind you of that next time you want air support ;-) SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 06:00:32 PM 947 Views
I am a Marine we have our own air support random thoughts - 21/04/2010 06:15:01 PM 860 Views
Yeah - some of it pretty good too but still all small stuff SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 07:26:12 PM 909 Views
The F/A18 does OK random thoughts - 21/04/2010 10:11:13 PM 818 Views
It's all right, but not the best choice SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 04:30:07 PM 888 Views
jack of all trades pretty much defines the Marines random thoughts - 22/04/2010 05:13:21 PM 1280 Views
Oh not entirely SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 09:54:21 PM 1172 Views
I second that UGH *NM* Aisha - 21/04/2010 10:30:35 PM 399 Views
Hm. That seems to violate some significant 1st Amendment rights. Ghavrel - 21/04/2010 07:00:59 PM 904 Views
you forget that the military sign away their rights. *NM* LadyLorraine - 21/04/2010 07:06:52 PM 423 Views
That's why I specified dishonorably discharged. They're no longer in the military. Ghavrel - 21/04/2010 08:43:22 PM 910 Views
*shrug* sorry, I'm a bit cynical over how much the military EVER lets go. LadyLorraine - 21/04/2010 10:13:51 PM 874 Views
Re: I'm in favor of repealing DADT, but this made me briefly reconsider Aisha - 21/04/2010 05:36:48 AM 912 Views
Not in uniform. beckstcw - 21/04/2010 05:38:50 AM 1034 Views
oh puhlease Aisha - 21/04/2010 05:43:15 AM 967 Views
It's not a just a piece of clothing, but I guess we'll agree to disagree on that. beckstcw - 21/04/2010 05:45:52 AM 959 Views
I agree with you, Aisha. The Shrike - 21/04/2010 02:15:30 PM 1086 Views
and another thing Aisha - 21/04/2010 05:38:53 AM 962 Views
I'm on their side, BUT beckstcw - 21/04/2010 05:44:00 AM 898 Views
Re: I'm on their side, BUT Aisha - 21/04/2010 05:57:50 AM 963 Views
Like I said, we simply disagree *NM* beckstcw - 21/04/2010 06:35:27 AM 437 Views
Thing is though SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 03:31:05 PM 1007 Views
Well... it's a military policy. If they were protesting animal cruelty while wearing it, I'd agree beetnemesis - 21/04/2010 06:53:36 AM 1121 Views
What beetnemesis said. They're not talking about rights for all gays, but rights for gay soldiers. Tim - 21/04/2010 09:54:09 AM 869 Views
Sounds a bit like they are damned either way snoopcester - 21/04/2010 11:01:36 AM 906 Views
It's peaceful and non-violent. I see nothing wrong with them making their point in this in addition The Shrike - 21/04/2010 02:12:54 PM 875 Views
A soldier protesting a military doctrine has the right. Dannymac - 21/04/2010 02:28:40 PM 1003 Views
Re: A soldier protesting a military doctrine has the right. Aisha - 21/04/2010 02:34:34 PM 902 Views
they don't have the right to use the uniform to make that free expression *NM* random thoughts - 21/04/2010 02:39:45 PM 383 Views
Take it up with congress, the regulations are clear, no such right exists, it is expressly banned *NM* Isaac - 21/04/2010 02:46:14 PM 353 Views
The uniform isn't just handed to you after Basic with no strings attached. beckstcw - 21/04/2010 03:04:32 PM 1003 Views
The funny thing about it is SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 03:35:51 PM 1021 Views
Re: The funny thing about it is Bored - 21/04/2010 10:12:57 PM 868 Views
Actually -the question isn't right SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 04:38:03 PM 775 Views
What's bugging me is that Choi is still in Isaac - 22/04/2010 04:44:50 PM 841 Views
Is he? SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 04:47:37 PM 911 Views
Apparently Isaac - 22/04/2010 05:12:44 PM 1002 Views
I think your attitude is likely to be common among active duty and vets alike. Sareitha Sedai - 21/04/2010 02:44:29 PM 894 Views
Actually, darlin', we don't have to convince them. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 03:34:49 PM 892 Views
very true random thoughts - 21/04/2010 03:51:49 PM 941 Views
But these men didn't disrespect anything. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 04:09:20 PM 977 Views
the problem is uniforms are about more than everyone dressing the same random thoughts - 21/04/2010 05:55:31 PM 954 Views
The statistics show that nearly 70% of Americans think gay men and women should serve openly. The Shrike - 21/04/2010 04:14:33 PM 852 Views
And going back to the Truman example, he doesn't even have to show Truman's courage. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 04:17:02 PM 900 Views
Re: And going back to the Truman example, he doesn't even have to show Truman's courage. The Shrike - 21/04/2010 04:25:46 PM 915 Views
That dude is all talk about everything. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 04:27:07 PM 1030 Views
Well he wasn't all talk about Health care SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 04:44:39 PM 991 Views
Yes, the main thing he has followed through on is the most disastrous. LiterateDog - 22/04/2010 04:59:45 PM 766 Views
Well, I'm not convinced on that SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 10:02:58 PM 1240 Views
and I think they will get it random thoughts - 21/04/2010 06:05:07 PM 1019 Views
Civil disobedience against immoral government action often involves breaking the rules. *NM* LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 03:37:36 PM 424 Views
Wow, The Shrike - 21/04/2010 04:04:42 PM 882 Views
I'm sure female protesters made a lot of people reconsider the suffrage movement. Dreaded Anomaly - 21/04/2010 04:09:37 PM 1039 Views
Le sigh. The Shrike - 21/04/2010 04:16:17 PM 851 Views
The bravey of those men is exactly what that 'clothing' stands for. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 04:20:19 PM 978 Views
The above post was sarcasm, in case that wasn't clear... Dreaded Anomaly - 21/04/2010 04:43:44 PM 981 Views
I knew it was sarcasm. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 04:54:11 PM 869 Views
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