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The statistics show that nearly 70% of Americans think gay men and women should serve openly. The Shrike Send a noteboard - 21/04/2010 04:14:33 PM
The military may not like but they will follow orders. It is congress who they must convince. But of course you can't get much out of congress without the support of the American people and the American people tend to get their opinion about how the military should be regulated from the military people they know and disrespecting the uniform tends to piss most vets off so it is a bit of a circle. Using the uniform to promote your political views, even if they involve the military, would be considered disrespectful by most vets. If they were protesting cutting VA funding then maybe the vets would forgive them but not on much else.


Congress is dragging their feet. The President is dragging his feet. The statistics show that the American people want this.

Just as Truman ordered the integration of the armed forces in 1948, so clearly it seems that Obama needs to step up the issue. Change on this issue needs to come from the Commander in Chief and needs to be pushed by the Commander in Chief. Congress is not doing enough.
Gallup Poll June 2009
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I'm in favor of repealing DADT, but this made me briefly reconsider - 21/04/2010 05:29:45 AM 1395 Views
...did you read the article? They aren't in the military any more. *NM* - 21/04/2010 05:31:02 AM 415 Views
No, in or out it's a no-go - 21/04/2010 05:48:25 AM 899 Views
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You wear a big sign that says I'M AWESOME: ASK ME HOW *NM* - 21/04/2010 07:01:45 AM 380 Views
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I've seen it. - 21/04/2010 12:52:59 PM 828 Views
Not a very fair way to look at it - 21/04/2010 02:10:47 PM 869 Views
perhaps not on its own - 21/04/2010 07:06:09 PM 802 Views
Sadly that's not that uncommon - 21/04/2010 07:27:45 PM 910 Views
to be honest, I've probably met plenty of wonderful military people in the bars - 21/04/2010 07:41:30 PM 889 Views
Could be. - 22/04/2010 04:45:29 PM 829 Views
every think the problem might be the uptight college kids? *NM* - 22/04/2010 05:10:08 PM 361 Views
uptight college kids don't go drink in Aggieville. - 22/04/2010 07:17:17 PM 1057 Views
maybe I should have said stuck up college kids - 22/04/2010 08:29:18 PM 967 Views
Uhm, no, college towns can be quite different. - 22/04/2010 10:13:41 PM 784 Views
The navy and Marine do have rules against it at least for working uniforms - 21/04/2010 04:06:10 PM 866 Views
Like Buzz Aldrin wearing his on Dancing with the Stars. Ugh. *NM* - 21/04/2010 02:37:59 PM 387 Views
I'll bet he got permission to do that though. - 21/04/2010 03:26:43 PM 844 Views
well that was an air force uniform so it really doesn't count as military - 21/04/2010 04:00:27 PM 1014 Views
I'll remind you of that next time you want air support ;-) - 21/04/2010 06:00:32 PM 888 Views
I am a Marine we have our own air support - 21/04/2010 06:15:01 PM 795 Views
Yeah - some of it pretty good too but still all small stuff - 21/04/2010 07:26:12 PM 834 Views
The F/A18 does OK - 21/04/2010 10:11:13 PM 763 Views
It's all right, but not the best choice - 22/04/2010 04:30:07 PM 829 Views
jack of all trades pretty much defines the Marines - 22/04/2010 05:13:21 PM 1214 Views
Oh not entirely - 22/04/2010 09:54:21 PM 1109 Views
I second that UGH *NM* - 21/04/2010 10:30:35 PM 366 Views
Hm. That seems to violate some significant 1st Amendment rights. - 21/04/2010 07:00:59 PM 825 Views
you forget that the military sign away their rights. *NM* - 21/04/2010 07:06:52 PM 398 Views
Re: I'm in favor of repealing DADT, but this made me briefly reconsider - 21/04/2010 05:36:48 AM 835 Views
Not in uniform. - 21/04/2010 05:38:50 AM 965 Views
oh puhlease - 21/04/2010 05:43:15 AM 892 Views
I agree with you, Aisha. - 21/04/2010 02:15:30 PM 1016 Views
and another thing - 21/04/2010 05:38:53 AM 862 Views
I'm on their side, BUT - 21/04/2010 05:44:00 AM 841 Views
Re: I'm on their side, BUT - 21/04/2010 05:57:50 AM 903 Views
Like I said, we simply disagree *NM* - 21/04/2010 06:35:27 AM 410 Views
Thing is though - 21/04/2010 03:31:05 PM 945 Views
Sounds a bit like they are damned either way - 21/04/2010 11:01:36 AM 845 Views
A soldier protesting a military doctrine has the right. - 21/04/2010 02:28:40 PM 918 Views
Re: A soldier protesting a military doctrine has the right. - 21/04/2010 02:34:34 PM 836 Views
they don't have the right to use the uniform to make that free expression *NM* - 21/04/2010 02:39:45 PM 356 Views
The funny thing about it is - 21/04/2010 03:35:51 PM 944 Views
Re: The funny thing about it is - 21/04/2010 10:12:57 PM 802 Views
Actually -the question isn't right - 22/04/2010 04:38:03 PM 712 Views
What's bugging me is that Choi is still in - 22/04/2010 04:44:50 PM 774 Views
Is he? - 22/04/2010 04:47:37 PM 841 Views
Apparently - 22/04/2010 05:12:44 PM 945 Views
I think your attitude is likely to be common among active duty and vets alike. - 21/04/2010 02:44:29 PM 832 Views
Actually, darlin', we don't have to convince them. - 21/04/2010 03:34:49 PM 824 Views
very true - 21/04/2010 03:51:49 PM 865 Views
But these men didn't disrespect anything. - 21/04/2010 04:09:20 PM 898 Views
the problem is uniforms are about more than everyone dressing the same - 21/04/2010 05:55:31 PM 884 Views
The statistics show that nearly 70% of Americans think gay men and women should serve openly. - 21/04/2010 04:14:33 PM 793 Views
And going back to the Truman example, he doesn't even have to show Truman's courage. - 21/04/2010 04:17:02 PM 826 Views
Re: And going back to the Truman example, he doesn't even have to show Truman's courage. - 21/04/2010 04:25:46 PM 849 Views
That dude is all talk about everything. - 21/04/2010 04:27:07 PM 953 Views
Well he wasn't all talk about Health care - 22/04/2010 04:44:39 PM 922 Views
Yes, the main thing he has followed through on is the most disastrous. - 22/04/2010 04:59:45 PM 695 Views
Well, I'm not convinced on that - 22/04/2010 10:02:58 PM 1163 Views
and I think they will get it - 21/04/2010 06:05:07 PM 956 Views
Civil disobedience against immoral government action often involves breaking the rules. *NM* - 21/04/2010 03:37:36 PM 396 Views
Wow, - 21/04/2010 04:04:42 PM 821 Views
I'm sure female protesters made a lot of people reconsider the suffrage movement. - 21/04/2010 04:09:37 PM 973 Views
Le sigh. - 21/04/2010 04:16:17 PM 794 Views
The bravey of those men is exactly what that 'clothing' stands for. - 21/04/2010 04:20:19 PM 906 Views
The above post was sarcasm, in case that wasn't clear... - 21/04/2010 04:43:44 PM 890 Views
I knew it was sarcasm. - 21/04/2010 04:54:11 PM 807 Views

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