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It shows that Arizona is already lost Roland00 Send a noteboard - 26/04/2010 03:09:24 AM
these reactionary things happened right before a state becomes a minority majority state (where the majority of people are actually considered "minorities";). Arizona will be such a state in the next 10 to 20 years according to estimates.

But right before this switch happens, the reactionaries come out, and try to hold back the sea. It happened in California when Pete Wilson screwed the Republican Party for a Generation in that state, and it is likely to happen here in Arizona as well.
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The Arizona immigration bill thingy BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 12:57:20 AM 2134 Views
what do you expect from one of the last states to accept MLK day? Aisha - 26/04/2010 01:19:03 AM 1235 Views
Yes, well, at least you are in the 27% of Americans that have a Passport. BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 01:48:44 AM 1045 Views
Such a wrongheaded law. LiterateDog - 26/04/2010 02:25:10 AM 949 Views
A lot of stuff makes me go "whuh?" legally. Ghavrel - 26/04/2010 03:38:12 AM 830 Views
Sounds like apartheid in SA... Napoleon62 - 26/04/2010 02:36:52 AM 991 Views
As bad as the law is, that's an ignorant statement. *NM* LiterateDog - 26/04/2010 02:38:16 AM 460 Views
Re: Sounds like apartheid in SA... BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 05:13:17 AM 1101 Views
It shows that Arizona is already lost Roland00 - 26/04/2010 03:09:24 AM 987 Views
It will only take a few times getting their asses sued off for detaining U.S. citizens against... everynametaken - 26/04/2010 05:54:49 AM 1035 Views
Yeah, I can't wait 'til a Latino state representative is arrested for looking illegal. Ghavrel - 26/04/2010 07:26:13 AM 935 Views
or even better, a celebrity. I choose Antonia Banderas (when he has the funky beard hobo look) *NM* Aisha - 26/04/2010 12:32:18 PM 475 Views
Looks like no one knows how bad it is along the border Dark Knight - 26/04/2010 06:19:24 AM 939 Views
Oh please! The immigration and drug problems don't justify bad legislation. everynametaken - 26/04/2010 07:02:54 AM 956 Views
I do. Brian - 26/04/2010 07:11:10 AM 1118 Views
Re: I do. everynametaken - 26/04/2010 07:45:21 AM 950 Views
Yeah, I saw an interview with a former U.S. Drug Czar Brian - 26/04/2010 06:35:10 PM 924 Views
Okay, I grew up in Arizona. LadyLorraine - 26/04/2010 12:41:21 PM 1143 Views
Re: Looks like no one knows how bad it is along the border BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 03:58:37 PM 1024 Views
looks like somebody doesn't quite get the point moondog - 29/04/2010 06:18:58 AM 1593 Views
Some thoughts Amys - 26/04/2010 06:42:02 AM 1062 Views
I wouldn't worry to much laws like that random thoughts - 26/04/2010 03:03:16 PM 935 Views
patriot act gives that to any federal law enforcement officer moondog - 29/04/2010 06:13:38 AM 1039 Views
Re: Some thoughts BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 04:04:55 PM 926 Views
It's not just outrageous; it's plain stupid. The latter is almost as offensive as the former. Ghavrel - 26/04/2010 07:30:30 AM 953 Views
Sounds more like a bill to convince people they are doing something than to do something snoopcester - 26/04/2010 12:43:19 PM 924 Views
What I find interesting about all this... Legolas - 26/04/2010 01:06:08 PM 1032 Views
well you see, that IS part of the problem LadyLorraine - 26/04/2010 01:13:19 PM 1023 Views
It is interesting to see how it contrasts with your take on it, being from a country with them snoopcester - 26/04/2010 02:11:18 PM 986 Views
Re: What I find interesting about all this... BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 03:52:09 PM 961 Views
Perhaps I'm wrong, but... Elaine - 26/04/2010 01:49:13 PM 922 Views
I don't know about the green cards LadyLorraine - 26/04/2010 03:05:49 PM 953 Views
That last point doesn't really make any sense. Legolas - 26/04/2010 03:20:19 PM 946 Views
my point was that the punishments for the similar crimes are so different. LadyLorraine - 26/04/2010 04:23:08 PM 895 Views
Hey, I think it's an appalling law. Elaine - 27/04/2010 02:24:30 PM 1038 Views
Re: Perhaps I'm wrong, but... BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 03:41:47 PM 859 Views
The law will be overturned but it may help to get the federal government off their collective ass random thoughts - 26/04/2010 02:59:11 PM 1004 Views
The law will most likely not be overturned. LadyLorraine - 26/04/2010 03:13:24 PM 936 Views
I meant by the courts random thoughts - 27/04/2010 03:49:11 PM 838 Views
ah well. that'd be nice, then. *NM* LadyLorraine - 27/04/2010 05:14:31 PM 438 Views
The law will be overturned but it may help to get the federal government off their collective ass *NM* Aisha - 26/04/2010 03:20:45 PM 491 Views
The law will be overturned but it may help to get the federal government off their collective ass *NM* beckstcw - 26/04/2010 06:53:32 PM 417 Views
The law will be overturned but it may help to get the federal government off their collective ass *NM* everynametaken - 26/04/2010 08:33:04 PM 446 Views
The federal government will be collective ass but it may help to get the law off their overturned *NM* beckstcw - 27/04/2010 05:33:42 AM 442 Views
Their collective ass will be overturned but it may help to get the law off the federal government *NM* BlackAdder - 27/04/2010 09:18:02 AM 418 Views
It's interesting how this sort of mirrors the Belgian issues. Legolas - 26/04/2010 03:34:59 PM 929 Views
the "overrunning" of culture and language is exaggerated, imo LadyLorraine - 26/04/2010 04:34:56 PM 953 Views
I think the primary problem - in both cases - is language, yes. Legolas - 26/04/2010 04:54:55 PM 970 Views
*shrug* I don't know. I just think that people are way too uptight about the issue LadyLorraine - 26/04/2010 05:02:30 PM 894 Views
I agree with you Brian - 26/04/2010 05:26:47 PM 918 Views
that is also true LadyLorraine - 26/04/2010 05:44:40 PM 863 Views
There is a difference between assimilating and being assimilated random thoughts - 27/04/2010 04:09:19 PM 938 Views
the differences really are not that minor random thoughts - 28/04/2010 06:49:33 PM 959 Views
hmm, see LadyLorraine - 28/04/2010 07:10:42 PM 853 Views
I am from San Antonio I have always been able to buy burritos from my neighbors random thoughts - 28/04/2010 08:28:45 PM 870 Views
mmmm Tamale. LadyLorraine - 28/04/2010 08:53:13 PM 892 Views
When I say relatively minor, it's because I'm thinking of those *other* assimilation problems here Legolas - 28/04/2010 10:30:04 PM 1160 Views
It should rattle anyone who lives in a democracy and who likes their way of life random thoughts - 28/04/2010 11:15:18 PM 976 Views
a minor point.... moondog - 29/04/2010 06:30:22 AM 966 Views
More power to the government! and We took that land fair and square! *NM* heartbreak - 26/04/2010 04:43:15 PM 384 Views
I'm going to take a common sense approach on this for a minute Isaac - 26/04/2010 09:05:21 PM 1162 Views
Re: I'm going to take a common sense approach on this for a minute BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 11:48:14 PM 1271 Views
you are correct moondog - 29/04/2010 06:39:29 AM 1295 Views
Uhm, how is that "worst" case scenario? LadyLorraine - 27/04/2010 01:28:28 PM 925 Views
Worst reasonable case scenario Isaac - 28/04/2010 06:48:29 PM 860 Views
Will the will of the people of Arizona be respected? dart_board - 27/04/2010 12:12:46 AM 1021 Views
That's funny... LadyLorraine - 27/04/2010 01:57:14 AM 1238 Views
echo chamber much? random thoughts - 27/04/2010 04:14:53 PM 1000 Views
there's also 53% of us who think this will lead to violating civil rights. LadyLorraine - 27/04/2010 05:19:29 PM 863 Views
Re: there's also 53% of us who think this will lead to violating civil rights. dart_board - 28/04/2010 12:40:42 PM 922 Views
Those incidents are horrible LadyLorraine - 28/04/2010 01:07:39 PM 898 Views
Re: That's funny... dart_board - 28/04/2010 12:30:41 PM 932 Views
And this law will not give them what they want LadyLorraine - 28/04/2010 01:12:50 PM 944 Views
Also, the potential economic consequences of the law could be severe for Arizona. Libby - 27/04/2010 01:03:54 AM 951 Views
now that's just crazy talk. LadyLorraine - 27/04/2010 01:58:42 AM 883 Views
activist group liberal group claims it will cost money, what a shocker *NM* random thoughts - 27/04/2010 04:23:11 PM 400 Views
It will cost money Libby - 27/04/2010 09:16:31 PM 940 Views
but all of that ignores the long term savings random thoughts - 28/04/2010 03:24:50 PM 869 Views
it's less a matter of american tourism LadyLorraine - 28/04/2010 04:06:50 PM 917 Views
if they law is enforced it will decrease the number of illegals who go to Arizona random thoughts - 28/04/2010 06:35:26 PM 982 Views
I will admit LadyLorraine - 28/04/2010 07:01:55 PM 910 Views
there have always been bad cops and there always will be random thoughts - 28/04/2010 08:53:50 PM 865 Views
I don't see any real long term savings coming from this. Libby - 28/04/2010 10:17:26 PM 970 Views
70% of the people in Arizona support the new law and 30% of the state is Hispanic random thoughts - 28/04/2010 10:51:08 PM 1129 Views
real science? LadyLorraine - 28/04/2010 11:06:13 PM 913 Views
I linked to it further up the thread and you responded random thoughts - 28/04/2010 11:19:51 PM 897 Views
ah, I think I missed it for some reason LadyLorraine - 29/04/2010 12:18:13 AM 964 Views
who has time to read all of this crap *NM* random thoughts - 29/04/2010 04:26:11 AM 387 Views
I'm familiar with the Rasmussen poll Libby - 28/04/2010 11:31:30 PM 1211 Views
Here's Judge Napolitano's response to this AgentOrange - 27/04/2010 02:19:49 PM 906 Views
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