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70% of the people in Arizona support the new law and 30% of the state is Hispanic random thoughts Send a noteboard - 28/04/2010 10:51:08 PM
So either almost every single white person in the state supports that law or there are a fair number of Hispanics who support it as well. I think the most twisted bit of logic here is that illegal immigration has grown the Hispanic population to such a s size that it is no longer in our best interest to slow it down because they have become such a large voting block. I do wonder if democrats would feel the same way if Hispanics were voting 60% republican instead of the other way around. More poor uneducated people means more support for the democratic party.

I don't put much faith in studies done by liberal groups who are out to support and argument. Real science doesn’t have a political agenda and the group you sited does.

If all of the illegal immigrants were to leave Arizona at once it would upset the system and cause problems but that isn't going to happen. They could see a significant decrease and they would not suffer from it. Keep in mind one of the biggest problems and the one this law is aimed at is not the people who have been there for years and are contributing to the economy but the transits who are just passing through headed further north and the people involved in smuggling.

If Arizona can drive the new immigrants to New Mexico and California they can loose a lot of the problems that come with them and that should more then make up for the extra arrest.

Sorry but I call BS that this is going have a negative impact on Arizona tourism. If voting against MLK day didn’t hurt I don’t how this will. There may be people expressing concern but those people are concerned for living. I would want to see a real impact on tourism before I believed this has any real impact

You do need a certain number of low paid labors to keep an economy going but we can check that one off because the mob who run up to truck every time I pull into Loews leads me to believe there isn’t a shortage. As for property values that make me chuckle, can you point to an area where property values rose as the result of large numbers of Hispanics moving into the area?
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The Arizona immigration bill thingy - 26/04/2010 12:57:20 AM 2134 Views
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Such a wrongheaded law. - 26/04/2010 02:25:10 AM 949 Views
A lot of stuff makes me go "whuh?" legally. - 26/04/2010 03:38:12 AM 829 Views
Sounds like apartheid in SA... - 26/04/2010 02:36:52 AM 990 Views
As bad as the law is, that's an ignorant statement. *NM* - 26/04/2010 02:38:16 AM 459 Views
Re: Sounds like apartheid in SA... - 26/04/2010 05:13:17 AM 1101 Views
It shows that Arizona is already lost - 26/04/2010 03:09:24 AM 986 Views
Looks like no one knows how bad it is along the border - 26/04/2010 06:19:24 AM 939 Views
Oh please! The immigration and drug problems don't justify bad legislation. - 26/04/2010 07:02:54 AM 956 Views
I do. - 26/04/2010 07:11:10 AM 1117 Views
Re: I do. - 26/04/2010 07:45:21 AM 950 Views
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looks like somebody doesn't quite get the point - 29/04/2010 06:18:58 AM 1593 Views
Some thoughts - 26/04/2010 06:42:02 AM 1061 Views
I wouldn't worry to much laws like that - 26/04/2010 03:03:16 PM 934 Views
patriot act gives that to any federal law enforcement officer - 29/04/2010 06:13:38 AM 1039 Views
Re: Some thoughts - 26/04/2010 04:04:55 PM 926 Views
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What I find interesting about all this... - 26/04/2010 01:06:08 PM 1032 Views
well you see, that IS part of the problem - 26/04/2010 01:13:19 PM 1022 Views
Re: What I find interesting about all this... - 26/04/2010 03:52:09 PM 960 Views
Perhaps I'm wrong, but... - 26/04/2010 01:49:13 PM 921 Views
I don't know about the green cards - 26/04/2010 03:05:49 PM 953 Views
That last point doesn't really make any sense. - 26/04/2010 03:20:19 PM 945 Views
my point was that the punishments for the similar crimes are so different. - 26/04/2010 04:23:08 PM 895 Views
Hey, I think it's an appalling law. - 27/04/2010 02:24:30 PM 1038 Views
Re: Perhaps I'm wrong, but... - 26/04/2010 03:41:47 PM 859 Views
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The law will most likely not be overturned. - 26/04/2010 03:13:24 PM 935 Views
I meant by the courts - 27/04/2010 03:49:11 PM 838 Views
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It's interesting how this sort of mirrors the Belgian issues. - 26/04/2010 03:34:59 PM 928 Views
the "overrunning" of culture and language is exaggerated, imo - 26/04/2010 04:34:56 PM 953 Views
I think the primary problem - in both cases - is language, yes. - 26/04/2010 04:54:55 PM 970 Views
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I agree with you - 26/04/2010 05:26:47 PM 918 Views
that is also true - 26/04/2010 05:44:40 PM 863 Views
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the differences really are not that minor - 28/04/2010 06:49:33 PM 958 Views
hmm, see - 28/04/2010 07:10:42 PM 853 Views
I am from San Antonio I have always been able to buy burritos from my neighbors - 28/04/2010 08:28:45 PM 870 Views
mmmm Tamale. - 28/04/2010 08:53:13 PM 892 Views
a minor point.... - 29/04/2010 06:30:22 AM 966 Views
I'm going to take a common sense approach on this for a minute - 26/04/2010 09:05:21 PM 1162 Views
Re: I'm going to take a common sense approach on this for a minute - 26/04/2010 11:48:14 PM 1271 Views
you are correct - 29/04/2010 06:39:29 AM 1295 Views
Uhm, how is that "worst" case scenario? - 27/04/2010 01:28:28 PM 925 Views
Worst reasonable case scenario - 28/04/2010 06:48:29 PM 859 Views
Will the will of the people of Arizona be respected? - 27/04/2010 12:12:46 AM 1020 Views
That's funny... - 27/04/2010 01:57:14 AM 1238 Views
echo chamber much? - 27/04/2010 04:14:53 PM 1000 Views
there's also 53% of us who think this will lead to violating civil rights. - 27/04/2010 05:19:29 PM 863 Views
Re: there's also 53% of us who think this will lead to violating civil rights. - 28/04/2010 12:40:42 PM 921 Views
Those incidents are horrible - 28/04/2010 01:07:39 PM 897 Views
Re: That's funny... - 28/04/2010 12:30:41 PM 931 Views
And this law will not give them what they want - 28/04/2010 01:12:50 PM 943 Views
Also, the potential economic consequences of the law could be severe for Arizona. - 27/04/2010 01:03:54 AM 950 Views
now that's just crazy talk. - 27/04/2010 01:58:42 AM 883 Views
activist group liberal group claims it will cost money, what a shocker *NM* - 27/04/2010 04:23:11 PM 400 Views
It will cost money - 27/04/2010 09:16:31 PM 940 Views
but all of that ignores the long term savings - 28/04/2010 03:24:50 PM 869 Views
it's less a matter of american tourism - 28/04/2010 04:06:50 PM 916 Views
if they law is enforced it will decrease the number of illegals who go to Arizona - 28/04/2010 06:35:26 PM 982 Views
I will admit - 28/04/2010 07:01:55 PM 909 Views
there have always been bad cops and there always will be - 28/04/2010 08:53:50 PM 865 Views
I don't see any real long term savings coming from this. - 28/04/2010 10:17:26 PM 970 Views
70% of the people in Arizona support the new law and 30% of the state is Hispanic - 28/04/2010 10:51:08 PM 1129 Views
real science? - 28/04/2010 11:06:13 PM 913 Views
I linked to it further up the thread and you responded - 28/04/2010 11:19:51 PM 897 Views
ah, I think I missed it for some reason - 29/04/2010 12:18:13 AM 964 Views
who has time to read all of this crap *NM* - 29/04/2010 04:26:11 AM 387 Views
I'm familiar with the Rasmussen poll - 28/04/2010 11:31:30 PM 1211 Views
Here's Judge Napolitano's response to this - 27/04/2010 02:19:49 PM 906 Views

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