Since I posted that, the situation has indeed changed already. Apparently Gordon Brown rang Nick Clegg up in a fury that he was talking to the Tories, which has left the LibDems extremely reluctant to ally with Labour. Clegg's relations and conversations with Cameron are reported to be far more cordial. Combined with the Tories' greater mandate, this has left the LibDems more likely to align with the Tories then their traditional differences would suggest.
However, the Tories appear to remain divided on the issue. The frontbenchers, the shadow cabinet and so on seem much more happy to discuss an alliance than the backbenchers and grass-roots, who are far more angry about the situation. They may yet scupper the chances of an alliance. The LibDem grass-roots are also reportedly less happy about the idea of a Tory alliance, and due to the LibDem rules they have a greater say in what happens, so they may also vote down the proposal.
Still all to play for, but it does look like Brown may have shot himself in the foot (yet again), and if there is a LibDem-Labour alliance it might have to be without Brown.
However, the Tories appear to remain divided on the issue. The frontbenchers, the shadow cabinet and so on seem much more happy to discuss an alliance than the backbenchers and grass-roots, who are far more angry about the situation. They may yet scupper the chances of an alliance. The LibDem grass-roots are also reportedly less happy about the idea of a Tory alliance, and due to the LibDem rules they have a greater say in what happens, so they may also vote down the proposal.
Still all to play for, but it does look like Brown may have shot himself in the foot (yet again), and if there is a LibDem-Labour alliance it might have to be without Brown.
Lib Dems: Up 1% of the vote, down 10% of the seats.
- 07/05/2010 09:29:03 AM
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So what would you move to?
- 07/05/2010 09:53:51 AM
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I imagine if the UK changes it will move to Proportional Representation
- 07/05/2010 10:04:38 AM
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God I hate the British system
- 07/05/2010 10:24:35 AM
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It's an excellent morning. Conservatives are at 301 right now. *NM*
- 07/05/2010 01:57:52 PM
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Indeed
- 07/05/2010 02:22:37 PM
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- 07/05/2010 02:22:37 PM
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I love how they're calling that option "The Coalition of the Losers".
- 07/05/2010 02:27:56 PM
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They are? Where?
- 07/05/2010 02:38:01 PM
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On the lovely BBC. Paxman, Robinson, Dimbleby et al.
- 07/05/2010 02:52:01 PM
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Ah, we have it on but with the sound turned down - the subtitlers must be skipping that phrase
- 07/05/2010 03:13:57 PM
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- 07/05/2010 03:13:57 PM
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The thing with PR is, the current vote results are a horrid predictor for PR vote results.
- 07/05/2010 03:45:58 PM
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Re: The thing with PR is, the current vote results are a horrid predictor for PR vote results.
- 07/05/2010 03:52:19 PM
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I'm sure it would be a setup for new elections in a few months if they did. *NM*
- 07/05/2010 02:40:49 PM
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I suspect we'll get one of those anyway.
- 07/05/2010 02:52:32 PM
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What is the general consensus on who would win or lose from new elections?
- 07/05/2010 02:57:04 PM
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I've not heard any comment on this yet. I might have missed some.
- 07/05/2010 02:58:00 PM
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Not being talked about yet - I'd guess whoever is PM will lose though
- 07/05/2010 03:21:23 PM
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Re: Not being talked about yet - I'd guess whoever is PM will lose though
- 07/05/2010 03:29:37 PM
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Re: Not being talked about yet - I'd guess whoever is PM will lose though
- 07/05/2010 04:04:03 PM
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I suspect a great deal of the problem is George Osborn
- 07/05/2010 04:09:51 PM
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Re: I suspect a great deal of the problem is George Osborn
- 07/05/2010 04:24:56 PM
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I'm sure he is
- 07/05/2010 04:25:20 PM
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Heh.
- 07/05/2010 04:27:44 PM
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Re: Heh.
- 07/05/2010 04:43:18 PM
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His talking about "Portillo moments" was one of the best parts of the BBC's election broadcast. *NM*
- 07/05/2010 08:14:11 PM
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If they got PR as part of the deal it would be worth it
- 07/05/2010 02:42:36 PM
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Possibly.
- 07/05/2010 02:53:28 PM
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Re: Possibly.
- 07/05/2010 03:00:55 PM
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Sylvia Hermon the independent unionist would probably support them as well
- 07/05/2010 02:44:35 PM
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Re: Indeed
- 07/05/2010 03:45:00 PM
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- 07/05/2010 03:45:00 PM
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Re: Indeed
- 07/05/2010 03:59:41 PM
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- 07/05/2010 03:59:41 PM
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Well I'm fairly sure some Shinners have attended Tory conferences in the past
- 07/05/2010 04:05:56 PM
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The breakdown is pretty wack
- 07/05/2010 11:07:20 AM
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Tell me about it.
- 07/05/2010 11:14:44 AM
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I'm in the Cities of London and Westminster constituency.
- 07/05/2010 11:56:04 AM
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A simple change is all
- 07/05/2010 01:16:16 PM
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Not that simple
- 07/05/2010 02:45:00 PM
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Because my school was a polling station we used to get the day off every polling day
- 07/05/2010 02:51:18 PM
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- 07/05/2010 02:51:18 PM
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Re: Not that simple
- 07/05/2010 03:04:57 PM
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PR is hardly too difficult to implement and is much more democratic
- 07/05/2010 02:48:01 PM
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What's amazing is that the exit polls are actually looking astonishingly correct, now. Huh. *NM*
- 07/05/2010 03:35:12 PM
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As soon as i turned on the TV, i was being told the Exit polls must be wrong
- 07/05/2010 03:47:15 PM
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Oh, and the other interesting thing will be seeing whether the Conservatives offer....
- 07/05/2010 03:57:52 PM
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Until you bring Lady Thatcher back, all of your elections are just pick-the-least-offensive anyway. *NM*
- 07/05/2010 04:08:32 PM
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Well her son is good at starting coups, so maybe he might be hired for her return. *NM*
- 07/05/2010 04:28:52 PM
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Whatever it takes.
*NM*
- 07/05/2010 04:31:13 PM
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*NM*
- 07/05/2010 04:31:13 PM
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Please no, the milk stealer is still used to frighten children in Scotland
- 07/05/2010 04:47:26 PM
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OK here is the map of England by constituency, blue Tory, red NUlab
- 07/05/2010 05:00:20 PM
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So I'm just one of those upstart colonists....explain to me what is going on....
- 07/05/2010 05:26:59 PM
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Basically...
- 07/05/2010 06:43:10 PM
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And things are changing already
- 08/05/2010 04:08:47 PM
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I thought they weren't allowed to do that if Brown isn't Prime Minister?
- 08/05/2010 04:52:39 PM
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If i were the tories
- 07/05/2010 11:28:43 PM
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That is hilarious. Both Brown and Dimbleby have been around for a while, huh?
- 07/05/2010 11:59:58 PM
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Re: That is hilarious. Both Brown and Dimbleby have been around for a while, huh?
- 08/05/2010 06:11:38 PM
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Hmmm
- 13/05/2010 12:08:04 PM
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How was he supposed to know that at the time he made the post?
- 13/05/2010 09:52:24 PM
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Re: How was he supposed to know that at the time he made the post?
- 13/05/2010 10:59:35 PM
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