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Exactly. Joel Send a noteboard - 25/05/2010 12:07:32 AM
Or well, yeah.

Korean War wasn't a real "war" in that war wasn't properly "declared."

But it never stopped, either. There was no peace treaty. Just a ceasefire, which has never been lifted.

And I still don't think North Korea does jack without Chinese permission; they're far too dependent on Chinas support to just thumb their nose at them. No, I think North Korea is what it's always been: A catspaw for China to use against Japan and the US without having to get their hands dirty (publicly. ) If North Korea starts flinging nukes around or taking potshots at neighboring countrys shipping China can tut tut and wring their hands with impunity, secure in the knowledge that even if the US or someone else stirs itself in recognition of the fact the situation will only deteriorate otherwise, any reprisal will be against North Korea alone.

Meanwhile, it remains insane to allow North Korea to hold a gun to our heads on Chinas behalf simply because they might use it if we try to stop them. Didn't we already play this game in the '30s? Sooner or later a confrontation is coming, however distasteful we may find that; all that changes by waiting is the price of ending it in our favor grows, possibly to the point where a favorable ending is no longer possible.
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Oh, by the way...has anyone noticed how close the Korean peninsula is to war? - 24/05/2010 02:04:12 PM 1096 Views
I was wondering when something would be posted about this - 24/05/2010 02:49:54 PM 790 Views
haha. I love that mental image - 24/05/2010 02:51:53 PM 704 Views
But does North Korea really listen to China that much anymore? - 24/05/2010 02:55:04 PM 733 Views
that might well be a good point - 24/05/2010 03:20:32 PM 702 Views
Very interesting point. That is a wild card. *NM* - 24/05/2010 03:27:53 PM 251 Views
The explaination I have heard... - 24/05/2010 09:05:40 PM 738 Views
I don't know... - 24/05/2010 09:49:25 PM 655 Views
No, because China doesn't want us in the region. - 25/05/2010 12:20:47 AM 693 Views
Um, wasn't that pretty much always understood? - 25/05/2010 12:08:12 AM 650 Views
yah, it doesn't look to be a good situation - 24/05/2010 02:50:08 PM 705 Views
If there were a war with North Korea the US has the resources to deal with it. - 24/05/2010 02:56:39 PM 726 Views
mm. well I don't much like that either, to be honest. - 24/05/2010 03:00:29 PM 716 Views
Wikipedia is your friend. - 24/05/2010 03:08:33 PM 884 Views
ah mk. Thanks!! - 24/05/2010 04:39:49 PM 663 Views
Still scary and you know that using those would escalate everything. - 24/05/2010 03:26:12 PM 674 Views
Korea is directly in our sphere of influence - 24/05/2010 03:37:18 PM 629 Views
I meant "we" in a personal sense, not a national sense. - 24/05/2010 05:36:40 PM 778 Views
In a personal sense, we could hijack a nuclear silo and shoot an ICBM at Pyongyang. - 24/05/2010 05:50:52 PM 602 Views
Oh yuck - there are far better ways. - 24/05/2010 06:01:44 PM 646 Views
yah... - 24/05/2010 06:27:37 PM 677 Views
Re: yah... - 24/05/2010 06:34:13 PM 667 Views
That would totally blow my cover of being a nerdy little grandma. - 24/05/2010 09:37:28 PM 623 Views
I don't think the US could, if China decided to get involved - 24/05/2010 08:45:23 PM 612 Views
A part of me says just get it over with - 24/05/2010 03:21:06 PM 615 Views
I agree that if war is inevitable, it is much better to start it at a time of our choosing. - 24/05/2010 03:48:36 PM 767 Views
I agree - 24/05/2010 04:17:19 PM 782 Views
Pretty much agree with all of that. *NM* - 24/05/2010 05:17:27 PM 279 Views
I'm trying not to. *NM* - 24/05/2010 05:25:06 PM 252 Views
This. *NM* - 24/05/2010 05:28:20 PM 277 Views
I understand - 24/05/2010 06:00:09 PM 619 Views
Yes - 24/05/2010 06:05:25 PM 635 Views
i agree - 24/05/2010 06:28:37 PM 650 Views
This has disaster written all over it *NM* - 24/05/2010 08:39:37 PM 266 Views
Technically, weren't we always? - 24/05/2010 08:51:29 PM 628 Views
Exactly. - 25/05/2010 12:07:32 AM 681 Views
I try to block it out with thought's of a puppet singing "I'm So Ronery". *NM* - 24/05/2010 10:59:23 PM 265 Views
No one wants to resume the Korean War. - 24/05/2010 11:27:12 PM 742 Views
China does. - 25/05/2010 12:29:11 AM 680 Views
No, they don't - 25/05/2010 12:54:49 AM 705 Views
Well, it would be more accurate to say they want a conflict, yes. - 25/05/2010 01:15:23 AM 705 Views
No, they don't - 25/05/2010 01:24:17 AM 688 Views
North Korea is not acting suicidal? Are you kidding? - 25/05/2010 02:41:29 AM 659 Views
The internal political dynamic in North Korea is such that they constantly need a crisis. - 25/05/2010 03:03:59 AM 677 Views
You are missing the main point. - 25/05/2010 03:36:37 AM 720 Views
I'm not saying it's nothing new. - 25/05/2010 03:57:40 AM 696 Views
Your response highlights the ultimate problem: the crisis will have to keep getting bigger. - 25/05/2010 07:44:19 PM 636 Views
Yes, that is the danger. - 26/05/2010 09:04:36 PM 777 Views
Fair enough. I misunderstood your position before. - 26/05/2010 12:31:52 AM 670 Views

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