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The wisest thing to do, in my mind, is to force the issue now. Tom Send a noteboard - 25/05/2010 07:49:56 PM
We need to let China know that the issue needs to be resolved now to avoid war. We should start with voluntary evacuations of old people and young children from Seoul and, if the situation does not get resolved, mandatory evacuations of all non-workers, followed by a plan of immediate evacuation of everyone else if needed. THAT would get peoples' attention in Beijing (along with the movement of a few extra carriers and putting all US troops in Japan on high alert).

We then let China know that we find three options acceptable:

(a) the regime signs a peace treaty, unilaterally dismantles its nuclear stockpile and finds some way of reforming itself

(b) China takes over direct control of North Korea and helps to reform its economy, with any Chinese troops leaving at the same time as US troops leave South Korea to permit the North to be absorbed by the South

OR

(c) we impose a complete blockade on North Korea and let the regime collapse on its own or, if need be, we destroy the regime militarily
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

*MySmiley*
This message last edited by Tom on 25/05/2010 at 07:51:09 PM
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Oh, by the way...has anyone noticed how close the Korean peninsula is to war? - 24/05/2010 02:04:12 PM 1088 Views
I was wondering when something would be posted about this - 24/05/2010 02:49:54 PM 785 Views
haha. I love that mental image - 24/05/2010 02:51:53 PM 697 Views
But does North Korea really listen to China that much anymore? - 24/05/2010 02:55:04 PM 726 Views
that might well be a good point - 24/05/2010 03:20:32 PM 694 Views
Very interesting point. That is a wild card. *NM* - 24/05/2010 03:27:53 PM 247 Views
The explaination I have heard... - 24/05/2010 09:05:40 PM 731 Views
I don't know... - 24/05/2010 09:49:25 PM 647 Views
No, because China doesn't want us in the region. - 25/05/2010 12:20:47 AM 685 Views
Um, wasn't that pretty much always understood? - 25/05/2010 12:08:12 AM 643 Views
yah, it doesn't look to be a good situation - 24/05/2010 02:50:08 PM 696 Views
If there were a war with North Korea the US has the resources to deal with it. - 24/05/2010 02:56:39 PM 717 Views
mm. well I don't much like that either, to be honest. - 24/05/2010 03:00:29 PM 710 Views
Wikipedia is your friend. - 24/05/2010 03:08:33 PM 876 Views
ah mk. Thanks!! - 24/05/2010 04:39:49 PM 658 Views
Still scary and you know that using those would escalate everything. - 24/05/2010 03:26:12 PM 666 Views
Korea is directly in our sphere of influence - 24/05/2010 03:37:18 PM 621 Views
I meant "we" in a personal sense, not a national sense. - 24/05/2010 05:36:40 PM 770 Views
In a personal sense, we could hijack a nuclear silo and shoot an ICBM at Pyongyang. - 24/05/2010 05:50:52 PM 596 Views
Oh yuck - there are far better ways. - 24/05/2010 06:01:44 PM 638 Views
yah... - 24/05/2010 06:27:37 PM 672 Views
Re: yah... - 24/05/2010 06:34:13 PM 659 Views
That would totally blow my cover of being a nerdy little grandma. - 24/05/2010 09:37:28 PM 619 Views
I don't think the US could, if China decided to get involved - 24/05/2010 08:45:23 PM 603 Views
A part of me says just get it over with - 24/05/2010 03:21:06 PM 605 Views
I agree that if war is inevitable, it is much better to start it at a time of our choosing. - 24/05/2010 03:48:36 PM 759 Views
I agree - 24/05/2010 04:17:19 PM 775 Views
Pretty much agree with all of that. *NM* - 24/05/2010 05:17:27 PM 277 Views
I'm trying not to. *NM* - 24/05/2010 05:25:06 PM 249 Views
This. *NM* - 24/05/2010 05:28:20 PM 274 Views
I understand - 24/05/2010 06:00:09 PM 611 Views
Yes - 24/05/2010 06:05:25 PM 625 Views
i agree - 24/05/2010 06:28:37 PM 641 Views
This has disaster written all over it *NM* - 24/05/2010 08:39:37 PM 263 Views
Technically, weren't we always? - 24/05/2010 08:51:29 PM 621 Views
Exactly. - 25/05/2010 12:07:32 AM 672 Views
I try to block it out with thought's of a puppet singing "I'm So Ronery". *NM* - 24/05/2010 10:59:23 PM 261 Views
No one wants to resume the Korean War. - 24/05/2010 11:27:12 PM 734 Views
China does. - 25/05/2010 12:29:11 AM 672 Views
No, they don't - 25/05/2010 12:54:49 AM 698 Views
Well, it would be more accurate to say they want a conflict, yes. - 25/05/2010 01:15:23 AM 698 Views
No, they don't - 25/05/2010 01:24:17 AM 680 Views
North Korea is not acting suicidal? Are you kidding? - 25/05/2010 02:41:29 AM 652 Views
The internal political dynamic in North Korea is such that they constantly need a crisis. - 25/05/2010 03:03:59 AM 670 Views
You are missing the main point. - 25/05/2010 03:36:37 AM 713 Views
I'm not saying it's nothing new. - 25/05/2010 03:57:40 AM 688 Views
Your response highlights the ultimate problem: the crisis will have to keep getting bigger. - 25/05/2010 07:44:19 PM 628 Views
Yes, that is the danger. - 26/05/2010 09:04:36 PM 769 Views
Fair enough. I misunderstood your position before. - 26/05/2010 12:31:52 AM 661 Views
Yes, I've been watching with morbid curiosity and a little sick feeling in my stomach. - 25/05/2010 02:47:53 AM 727 Views
The wisest thing to do, in my mind, is to force the issue now. - 25/05/2010 07:49:56 PM 712 Views

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