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I... kinda have to agree with Ghav, there. Craig Send a noteboard - 06/09/2009 10:39:28 PM
...is that none of the countries you mentioned claim to offer their citizens freedom of speech or religion. They aren't being hypocritical. We are, if we permit this blatant hate mongering.


We're being hypocritical if we say we offer freedom of speech/religion and then don't restrict a form of expression?

I think I see what Anti is trying to say - allowing that kind of hate speech is antithetical to freedom of religion, in a sense. But you're right about the free-speech issue.

Unfortunately this is a fun little instance of the two freedoms conflicting.
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Islam is of the Devil Aisha - 06/09/2009 03:30:51 AM 1765 Views
I swear, the levels of crazy are just increasing these days. Craig - 06/09/2009 06:04:19 AM 1038 Views
People are stupid. Ghavrel - 06/09/2009 06:25:42 AM 1184 Views
This statement got me: Dragonsoul - 06/09/2009 06:30:16 AM 1430 Views
Re: This statement got me: Aisha - 06/09/2009 07:20:17 AM 1033 Views
What you say about those places may be true random thoughts - 06/09/2009 02:16:30 PM 1029 Views
Regardless... Dragonsoul - 07/09/2009 04:34:48 AM 975 Views
Re: Regardless... Kylia Skydancer - 07/09/2009 06:10:18 AM 1075 Views
I'm not advocating the killing of Muslims. Dragonsoul - 08/09/2009 07:11:13 PM 1094 Views
Re: I'm not advocating the killing of Muslims. Kylia Skydancer - 08/09/2009 10:15:55 PM 1063 Views
Okay... Dragonsoul - 09/09/2009 04:04:29 PM 998 Views
You are free to wear offensive clothing random thoughts - 08/09/2009 08:13:18 PM 1077 Views
There is a difference between hatred and truth. Dragonsoul - 09/09/2009 04:04:02 PM 990 Views
You do know christans have done that as well don't you? random thoughts - 09/09/2009 06:04:28 PM 1062 Views
The difference is... Dragonsoul - 09/09/2009 06:16:13 PM 972 Views
really have you actaully read the Qur'an random thoughts - 09/09/2009 06:33:38 PM 1042 Views
there are some unsavory passages, and he knows it. nossy - 09/09/2009 06:46:59 PM 1034 Views
Acrually No I don't. Dragonsoul - 09/09/2009 07:52:19 PM 906 Views
Someone should have told Jesus the OT was void random thoughts - 09/09/2009 10:31:39 PM 1047 Views
Jesus was the one who voided it. Dragonsoul - 10/09/2009 12:25:18 AM 1049 Views
so he was lying when he said he didn't? random thoughts - 10/09/2009 03:27:14 AM 1113 Views
Christ never said that. Dragonsoul - 10/09/2009 02:14:53 PM 1011 Views
Logicaly, this is a stupid post. snoopcester - 06/09/2009 03:58:43 PM 1063 Views
+1 *NM* The Shrike - 06/09/2009 08:56:02 PM 489 Views
+2 *NM* Dannymac - 06/09/2009 10:04:34 PM 459 Views
+3 *NM* Craig - 06/09/2009 10:36:48 PM 475 Views
As an Englishman, why are you even posting in this thread then? *NM* Joker - 07/09/2009 02:49:22 AM 496 Views
Because I can. snoopcester - 07/09/2009 10:15:57 AM 1080 Views
So can he. Joker - 07/09/2009 07:54:56 PM 985 Views
Yes nossy - 08/09/2009 05:59:24 AM 1067 Views
It means a lot in context to the situation Dragonsoul - 08/09/2009 07:14:50 PM 1105 Views
No, it does not. nossy - 08/09/2009 07:20:49 PM 1072 Views
So now you can tell me what I can and can't do with my children? Dragonsoul - 08/09/2009 11:31:16 PM 1083 Views
I can tell you what you can't make your children do in school. nossy - 08/09/2009 11:59:21 PM 1030 Views
Re: I can tell you what you can't make your children do in school. Dragonsoul - 09/09/2009 04:10:19 PM 1093 Views
Re: I can tell you what you can't make your children do in school. nossy - 09/09/2009 04:27:32 PM 1150 Views
Define "disruptive". Dragonsoul - 09/09/2009 06:19:36 PM 1025 Views
No. *NM* nossy - 09/09/2009 06:26:43 PM 502 Views
Well said *NM* Isaac - 09/09/2009 06:55:22 PM 477 Views
Ooh, look, I'm being baited. nossy - 09/09/2009 07:59:28 PM 994 Views
Then your argument has no merit. *NM* Dragonsoul - 09/09/2009 07:52:47 PM 470 Views
you are making no sense snoopcester - 08/09/2009 11:35:12 AM 1079 Views
Quite a bit. Dragonsoul - 07/09/2009 04:31:59 AM 1053 Views
Luke 6:31 *NM* krassos - 07/09/2009 08:41:54 PM 547 Views
That applies to them as well. *NM* Dragonsoul - 08/09/2009 07:08:55 PM 386 Views
The thing I think you are missing... Antigone - 06/09/2009 07:18:45 PM 1122 Views
Wait, what? Ghavrel - 06/09/2009 08:29:14 PM 1090 Views
I... kinda have to agree with Ghav, there. Craig - 06/09/2009 10:39:28 PM 1075 Views
Yeah, what you said! Antigone - 06/09/2009 11:51:19 PM 1148 Views
don't make me get all vulcan on you. *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 07/09/2009 06:13:18 AM 457 Views
Wrong. Dragonsoul - 07/09/2009 04:36:49 AM 1081 Views
That is why America is different than those countries. Duh. *NM* everynametaken - 06/09/2009 07:58:53 PM 661 Views
Because in America Dragonsoul - 07/09/2009 04:35:24 AM 1139 Views
Re: Because in America Kylia Skydancer - 07/09/2009 06:16:05 AM 980 Views
And... Dragonsoul - 08/09/2009 07:15:49 PM 997 Views
Jesus, you are a real piece of work. Moron. *NM* everynametaken - 07/09/2009 11:52:02 PM 362 Views
I don't think I understand your basic reasoning. You can't be saying what it sounds like. Tashmere - 08/09/2009 01:40:42 AM 1064 Views
Go, Tash, go! Craig - 08/09/2009 05:52:01 AM 1022 Views
Re: I don't think I understand your basic reasoning. You can't be saying what it sounds like. Dragonsoul - 08/09/2009 07:18:00 PM 1014 Views
"Their government" is the American government. *NM* Legolas - 08/09/2009 07:36:27 PM 434 Views
That is a concept many people can't seem to grasp *NM* random thoughts - 08/09/2009 08:14:50 PM 450 Views
The elf has a point. *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 08/09/2009 10:18:26 PM 506 Views
And yet I don't see CAIR.. Dragonsoul - 09/09/2009 04:07:05 PM 973 Views
Why on earth should it? Legolas - 09/09/2009 05:14:30 PM 1053 Views
Because... Dragonsoul - 09/09/2009 06:25:41 PM 1086 Views
Re: Because... Legolas - 09/09/2009 07:06:24 PM 1291 Views
Really? Craig - 08/09/2009 08:02:42 PM 963 Views
Re: Really? everynametaken - 09/09/2009 12:11:36 AM 1017 Views
Well it's not about whether it scans right to you. Dragonsoul - 09/09/2009 04:06:06 PM 927 Views
Oh, I was just clarifying. Craig - 09/09/2009 06:05:49 PM 981 Views
Re: I don't think I understand your basic reasoning. You can't be saying what it sounds like. Tashmere - 08/09/2009 11:49:48 PM 1081 Views
Failed edit. *NM* Tashmere - 08/09/2009 11:50:50 PM 480 Views
Exactly. *NM* everynametaken - 09/09/2009 12:12:52 AM 483 Views
I'm appalled that this was even worthy of note LadyLorraine - 06/09/2009 06:46:58 AM 1067 Views
Re: I'm appalled that this was even worthy of note Aisha - 06/09/2009 07:22:59 AM 1199 Views
It didn't infringe on the First Amendment rights of others. Ghavrel - 06/09/2009 07:28:35 AM 1040 Views
Er? You misunderstand the law quite a lot there Isaac - 06/09/2009 11:06:04 AM 1044 Views
I believe the rest of the Church has done a horrible job explaining... everynametaken - 06/09/2009 08:02:25 PM 1029 Views
When will people learn tolerance/=support...? Joel - 06/09/2009 12:30:23 PM 1108 Views
Well said *NM* Isaac - 06/09/2009 12:50:11 PM 482 Views
The sad thing is ou know it is the parents driving it all random thoughts - 06/09/2009 02:37:08 PM 1162 Views
The parents are disgusting idiots snoopcester - 06/09/2009 03:57:17 PM 1057 Views
Fundamentalist nutjobs. Sheesh! *NM* everynametaken - 06/09/2009 07:57:09 PM 555 Views
The appropriate punishment... Kylia Skydancer - 07/09/2009 06:03:25 AM 1064 Views
Punishment for what? Isaac - 07/09/2009 09:51:57 AM 1067 Views
When did I say anything about a law? Kylia Skydancer - 07/09/2009 10:48:09 AM 1039 Views
Since were talking about the law, not your opinion of right an wrong, it's sort of a default Isaac - 09/09/2009 05:01:08 PM 1036 Views
Eh... I wish you were right, but I don't think you are. Ghavrel - 10/09/2009 03:50:18 AM 1111 Views
Morse isn't a bad example Isaac - 10/09/2009 11:23:32 AM 1100 Views
Fair enough. I'm just a little overzealous with what I see as infringements on civil liberties. Ghavrel - 15/09/2009 01:14:48 AM 1315 Views
That's the key point so many forget: Joel - 07/09/2009 11:42:12 PM 911 Views
It's not that they forget, they never 'get' to begin with Isaac - 09/09/2009 07:18:09 PM 1095 Views
No, that's pretty much it. Ghavrel - 10/09/2009 03:42:25 AM 1145 Views
You're right. Joel - 14/09/2009 11:11:38 AM 1223 Views
If I understand you nossy - 14/09/2009 03:05:39 PM 1055 Views
Yes, that was it Isaac - 14/09/2009 04:17:45 PM 1221 Views
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