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I pray you're being sarcastic here. Joel Send a noteboard - 10/06/2010 02:21:17 PM
If BP is on the hook for this mess (as well as Transocean, Mitsui, and Anadarko to name a few), then why weren't firms like Goldman Sachs, Citibank, JP Morgan (who bought Bear Stearns only after being guaranteed a ceiling on Bear's liabilities) on the hook for the mess THEY caused (which is MANY MANY times worse)? Instead, the only question in Congress was how soon they could start feeding from the taxpayers' teats.

Instead of asking these companies to pay for the damages, we should be supporting a govt. sponsored (i.e., taxpayer) bailout for Big Oil, like we did for Big Money.


Indeed, I don't understand why government should clean up the mess - literally - caused by a private company? Why should the federal government use it's naval ships, coast guard, and its resources in bailing out BP? I say remove those ships all of them, and all government agencies helping out with the cleanup withdraw their resources. They should stand out of the way and let business be better, smarter, more efficient, and more effective at solving problems. After all, Conservatives and Libertarians seem to have an equal faith in the infallibility of business and the complete fallibility of government. Let BP deal with the full Public, Financial, and Environmental consequences of their actions. Honestly, I think that is a good idea.

I'm just curious to why all the Conservatives and Libertarians on this forum are not complaining that the government is bailing out private industry again? C'mon guys, why so quiet?

Otherwise I'm forced to simply say the arch-conservative is right and the arch-liberal wrong, and that should give you pause. ;)
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A friend on FB asked why there were no "Save the Gulf" concerts Aisha - 09/06/2010 03:13:52 AM 1084 Views
Her complaint is legitimate. Why should the US government help Haitians more than US citizens? Ghavrel - 09/06/2010 04:25:09 AM 695 Views
Re: Her complaint is legitimate. Why should the US government help Haitians more than US citizens? Great Lord of Chaos - 09/06/2010 04:31:44 AM 693 Views
There are a lot people struggling right now who really can't afford to wait random thoughts - 09/06/2010 04:47:26 AM 742 Views
I agree with you. That was what I was thinking. But you said it better. *NM* Tashmere - 09/06/2010 05:07:44 AM 331 Views
Re: There are a lot people struggling right now who really can't afford to wait Aisha - 09/06/2010 05:15:33 AM 819 Views
That wins the award for stupid post of the month. Possibly the year. Ghavrel - 09/06/2010 08:31:18 AM 759 Views
They put you in charge of that award? is it like Miss USA where you pass on the title you hold? Aisha - 09/06/2010 08:47:57 AM 763 Views
I sometimes wonder where you lived in Houston. Joel - 09/06/2010 04:24:42 PM 870 Views
Re: I sometimes wonder where you lived in Houston. Aisha - 09/06/2010 05:50:53 PM 817 Views
This isn't Karachi. Joel - 10/06/2010 02:04:02 PM 868 Views
Re: This isn't Karachi. Aisha - 10/06/2010 03:39:30 PM 832 Views
What a shame then that no one HAS started such a program. Joel - 10/06/2010 04:17:02 PM 804 Views
and eww im not from Karachi Aisha - 10/06/2010 03:40:56 PM 724 Views
how upset Ghavrel is getting should tell you something about what is going on down there random thoughts - 09/06/2010 04:34:10 PM 647 Views
It's the combination of elitist arrogance and callous disregard Ghavrel - 09/06/2010 07:03:52 PM 738 Views
Maybe. I'm glad to have found a legitimate successor. Ghavrel - 10/06/2010 01:23:56 AM 695 Views
My thoughts exactly. Thanks for posting this. lyringlas - 09/06/2010 09:13:51 PM 730 Views
President Obama doesn't have the power to stop the oil gushing into the Gulf of Mexico Libby - 09/06/2010 09:46:24 PM 823 Views
Re: President Obama doesn't have the power to stop the oil gushing into the Gulf of Mexico lyringlas - 09/06/2010 10:03:52 PM 608 Views
So what exactly do you have a problem with? Libby - 09/06/2010 10:14:30 PM 738 Views
well he does have a phone he could have used to call up the BO CEO and chat with him random thoughts - 09/06/2010 10:42:07 PM 695 Views
You really don't have any credibilty left on this issue. Libby - 10/06/2010 01:56:06 AM 718 Views
you really are a loon random thoughts - 10/06/2010 05:19:56 AM 857 Views
What's funny is that companies like Haliburton are going to make bank off this disaster BlackAdder - 10/06/2010 06:14:07 AM 595 Views
Also there's Transocean Libby - 10/06/2010 06:49:02 AM 675 Views
yes other evil oil companies stand to profit random thoughts - 10/06/2010 02:55:33 PM 572 Views
Takes one to know one Libby - 10/06/2010 06:18:54 AM 990 Views
He said more domestic drilling, not more offshore drilling. *NM* Ghavrel - 10/06/2010 08:25:14 AM 328 Views
The definition of Domestic drilling includes offshore wells. Libby - 10/06/2010 08:32:58 AM 719 Views
no the main subject of the thread was should there be an aids benefit for the people affected *NM* random thoughts - 10/06/2010 04:16:47 PM 306 Views
I was refering to the thread of the posted link. *NM* Libby - 11/06/2010 10:18:24 AM 316 Views
You assumed something that was perhaps implied. It still doesn't hold up. *NM* Ghavrel - 10/06/2010 11:17:02 PM 279 Views
Sure it does. Libby - 11/06/2010 10:17:06 AM 1022 Views
all the loons say that and expect it to be true random thoughts - 10/06/2010 04:15:33 PM 1031 Views
And how would you know that unless you're a loon? Libby - 11/06/2010 10:07:57 AM 1070 Views
This sounds like a good idea BlackAdder - 10/06/2010 06:08:25 AM 742 Views
? random thoughts - 10/06/2010 04:18:27 PM 648 Views
this is human crisis not just an excuse to beat an oil company over the head with a stick random thoughts - 09/06/2010 02:38:06 PM 754 Views
i don't think the US government has ever organized a benefit concert.... *NM* moondog - 09/06/2010 04:18:39 PM 305 Views
I do believe they were involved in the text donations program *NM* random thoughts - 09/06/2010 04:29:42 PM 293 Views
I somewhat doubt it. But I wasn't responding to that part of her post. Ghavrel - 10/06/2010 01:26:26 AM 651 Views
I agree. Gher - 10/06/2010 04:37:25 AM 598 Views
Give Willie some time! Larry - 09/06/2010 05:30:19 AM 681 Views
Willie is like 108, I am sure how much time he has left random thoughts - 09/06/2010 03:22:21 PM 742 Views
Regarding the comparison to the financial crisis BlackAdder - 10/06/2010 02:10:44 AM 647 Views
Um, because "Big Oil" is in no danger of failing? Ghavrel - 10/06/2010 02:20:46 AM 611 Views
It's unclear if BP can take the hit BlackAdder - 10/06/2010 03:05:32 AM 596 Views
I actually agree, Free Markets should be cleaning up the oil spill. Libby - 10/06/2010 02:57:09 AM 992 Views
Re: I actually agree, Free Markets should be cleaning up the oil spill. BlackAdder - 10/06/2010 03:41:34 AM 724 Views
How is this not a bailout? Libby - 10/06/2010 04:15:18 AM 878 Views
If history is any precedent BlackAdder - 10/06/2010 06:18:18 AM 761 Views
The funny thing is... Libby - 10/06/2010 06:28:26 AM 742 Views
yes lets destroy the gulf coast to make a point random thoughts - 10/06/2010 05:24:12 AM 602 Views
I'm simply following laissez-faire capitalism and unfettered free-market ideology? Libby - 10/06/2010 06:39:19 AM 694 Views
maybe if you tried to understand it you would do a better job of making fun of it random thoughts - 10/06/2010 04:21:46 PM 549 Views
Really, don't get too bent out of shape over this. Libby - 11/06/2010 10:27:29 AM 857 Views
I pray you're being sarcastic here. Joel - 10/06/2010 02:21:17 PM 873 Views
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