The end of that still sounds like "it's the bank fault I robbed them,'cos their security's so bad. "
Joel Send a noteboard - 11/06/2010 01:33:44 PM
Where did he say it was a little leak that didn't matter?
You accuse him of making a stupid post then rant on at a straw man like an idiot.
It is a fair point when working out where blame lies and how much belongs to each party to see if the disaster was one that occured where BP were following regulations and government standards or if they weren't.
You accuse him of making a stupid post then rant on at a straw man like an idiot.
It is a fair point when working out where blame lies and how much belongs to each party to see if the disaster was one that occured where BP were following regulations and government standards or if they weren't.
Only the criminal aspects involve "blame" but the LIABILITY is pretty much all BPs. BP leased the area drilled, as well as the rig, but they operated the rig, and it was BP that decided that remote controls for the blowout preventer were unnecessary, then pushed the US government from whom they leased the drill site to agree. It was a BP supervisor who, according to survivors, gave the potentially critical order to replace the "drilling mud" used to reduce pressure with lighter seawater, due to delays in drilling, and over the strenuous objections of the chief driller (among the 11 people killed in the explosion. )
In terms of criminal responsibility it's way too soon to say what's on the table. Probably not much, because US regulations are rather lax, and were further reduced in recent years but, once again, BP can't dodge responsibility by saying the government failed to stop them doing irresponsible and dangerous things that THEY (i.e. not the US government) did. In terms of liability for damages, however, just because it's legal to use fireworks where you live doesn't relieve you of liability if your bottle rocket lands on your neighbors roof and burns down his house. Yes, the government has a responsibility to prohibit their use if that's considered a serious risk, and most do for just that reason, but whether they do or don't you're the one who gets to pay for his house.
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Bailout for BP?
10/06/2010 08:28:17 AM
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this government won't bail out BP
10/06/2010 08:43:01 AM
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In response to: "pipes leak, it happens"
10/06/2010 02:41:17 PM
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Would it be totally wrong to have such an award?
10/06/2010 03:11:06 PM
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A minor point I realise
10/06/2010 04:34:13 PM
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If other companies were involved, then they certainly share responsibility.
10/06/2010 05:08:19 PM
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100% responsible? Nobody is claiming they're 100% responsible.
10/06/2010 11:46:17 PM
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Ah. I was misled by no one seeming to talk about the other parties involved.
11/06/2010 10:10:06 AM
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I guess it depends on your definition of "proved."
11/06/2010 05:45:58 PM
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I have seen those allegations
12/06/2010 11:14:41 AM
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Mm, yes, we know how troublesome Congressional investigations are.
13/06/2010 06:49:15 AM
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It hasn't had "British" in the name since 2001 *NM*
13/06/2010 07:30:19 AM
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I am aware of that. I am referencing the idiotic claim of Brits that this is a national bias. *NM*
13/06/2010 07:35:25 AM
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You are clearly over emotional about this, not much point in trying to use reason with you *NM*
14/06/2010 10:36:15 AM
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Come take a trip down here and then give me a sanctimonious lecture on emotion. Get stuffed.
15/06/2010 12:05:33 AM
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Ironic
10/06/2010 03:27:12 PM
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Kids deserve to be sold into sex trafficking, but I'm ignorant and not too interested about it
10/06/2010 03:42:05 PM
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The end of that still sounds like "it's the bank fault I robbed them,'cos their security's so bad. "
11/06/2010 01:33:44 PM
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Except it isn't really like that, is it?
11/06/2010 02:27:56 PM
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Honestly? Foxhead was in trouble soon as he said (basically) "I know naught of this, but think... "
11/06/2010 02:54:37 PM
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Seems so, given lyringlas is an idiot. As his replies have shown.
11/06/2010 03:04:28 PM
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*shrugs* If you don't know, don't speak.
11/06/2010 03:57:25 PM
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if you don't know, ask
12/06/2010 02:23:47 PM
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You really are an idiot.
13/06/2010 06:55:21 AM
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you know i went back to my post just to see exactly how it was i pissed you off
10/06/2010 04:40:50 PM
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Also, I'm pretty shocked by this quote
10/06/2010 01:09:09 PM
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Anthony Weiner is anything but a sensible democrat congressman. *NM*
10/06/2010 04:18:21 PM
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Yeah, I was wondering about that - never heard of him before. *NM*
10/06/2010 04:24:10 PM
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Things you might want to consider. Especially Americans
10/06/2010 06:00:06 PM
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Transocean is Swiss, actually. w/ EDIT
10/06/2010 07:09:22 PM
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In name, not in reality
10/06/2010 07:14:26 PM
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True, Switzerland isn't known for its deepwater oil drilling.
*NM*
10/06/2010 07:38:09 PM
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