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Good point *NM* ursidae Send a noteboard - 12/07/2010 09:38:25 PM
Ben's asking for money to support the cost of processor power and bandwidth. He said as much in his post. As Jing pointed out, however, those things can often be had quite cheaply, and people are being asked to pay 15-22 USD apiece for them. Four or five such donations could support the site for a year, if Jing's assumptions are correct (they seem reasonable to me, though Alexa rankings aren't always very accurate), and this isn't even factoring in the donations (probably small, but worth noting) that Ben has received.

Of course, as you point out, Ben's time and programming effort are valuable too, and it's certainly reasonable for him to want to capitalize on that. However, that's not what's being asked for; there's been no mention of that. There's a difference between asking for help keeping the server running, and asking for people to pay your personal salary. When someone says "I need ten times as much money as this service actually costs," it's very reasonable to say "er, why's that again?"

Also, please don't get me wrong, I DO think Ben's time and effort is valuable, and worth paying for. Don't twist my words to make me seem anti-support. All I'm saying is that when one is being asked to hand over a fairly decent chunk of cash (for something that is typically free on the internet), it's not unconscionable to ask what one is paying for. Price breakdowns are requested all the time in the retail world, and I don't see anything wrong with requesting an itemized receipt.
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EDIT: Remember folks, today's the last day of the free premium accounts! - 06/07/2010 08:52:02 PM 3512 Views
Awesome job, mate! - 06/07/2010 09:03:20 PM 1611 Views
I see that you've also fixed the spelling of "received" in the noteboards. - 06/07/2010 09:08:00 PM 1634 Views
Erm... can you recheck your settings? - 06/07/2010 09:20:50 PM 1558 Views
They've not changed. *NM* - 06/07/2010 09:22:07 PM 900 Views
Default quote setting is excellent - 06/07/2010 10:02:35 PM 1629 Views
Nice! - 06/07/2010 11:51:09 PM 1414 Views
Yay! - 07/07/2010 04:32:39 PM 1451 Views
Time zone - 07/07/2010 05:23:43 PM 1412 Views
Yeah, Us/Eastern is ahead an hour too. - 07/07/2010 05:44:40 PM 1593 Views
Cool, I must locate some money to get one. *NM* - 08/07/2010 03:48:59 PM 933 Views
I all of a sudden miss Wse - 10/07/2010 01:28:00 AM 1473 Views
In a way, yes *NM* - 16/07/2010 06:43:14 AM 853 Views
Just how much bandwidth is Read and Find out using per month? - 11/07/2010 05:50:02 AM 1560 Views
So, you think Ben should pay it out of his own pocket then? - 12/07/2010 09:33:27 AM 1713 Views
Oh Jing. - 12/07/2010 08:05:31 PM 1603 Views
It's a very reasonable question. - 12/07/2010 09:29:26 PM 1699 Views
Good point *NM* - 12/07/2010 09:38:25 PM 821 Views
You want to charge people for functionality every other forum on the web gives them for free? - 14/07/2010 08:47:32 PM 1763 Views
It is exactly the same stuff Mike asked money for - 14/07/2010 09:00:55 PM 1410 Views
Why can't people even ask the question(s)? - 14/07/2010 09:22:11 PM 1571 Views
Re: Why can't people even ask the question(s)? - 14/07/2010 09:36:54 PM 1658 Views
Well - 14/07/2010 09:57:09 PM 1759 Views
Exactly. - 15/07/2010 12:09:14 AM 1535 Views
The messageboards are perfectly functional without a premium account. - 14/07/2010 09:17:43 PM 1400 Views
I see it as a way of giving people something back for donations. - 14/07/2010 10:09:08 PM 1692 Views
He does have a point when it comes to hyperlinks. - 15/07/2010 06:52:41 PM 1399 Views
There are other reasons why I don't want links in posts - 15/07/2010 08:18:53 PM 1448 Views
Why is that? - 15/07/2010 09:14:52 PM 1605 Views
Viable alternatives - 15/07/2010 01:16:39 AM 1635 Views
I have to agree with you here - 16/07/2010 06:55:43 AM 1414 Views
Advertising makes a site look like shit. - 16/07/2010 08:28:00 AM 1287 Views
Only if you choose to let it. - 16/07/2010 12:17:47 PM 1624 Views
This is just the BBforum argument rehashed. - 16/07/2010 06:07:20 PM 1598 Views
But those are the very things being introduced by the premium accounts. - 17/07/2010 12:44:05 PM 1628 Views
Re: One Thing - 17/07/2010 04:24:51 PM 1542 Views
Agreed. - 17/07/2010 04:34:09 PM 1516 Views
RAFO is a lot of great things, but great-looking it is not. - 16/07/2010 02:28:50 PM 1528 Views
As I've said above... - 16/07/2010 01:49:37 PM 1592 Views
Just to be clear: - 16/07/2010 03:18:22 PM 1549 Views
Re: As I've said above... - 16/07/2010 05:58:39 PM 1547 Views
Premium Plus account does. - 16/07/2010 06:05:07 PM 1591 Views
Re: Premium Plus account does. - 16/07/2010 06:13:17 PM 1410 Views
Re: Premium Plus account does. - 16/07/2010 09:03:27 PM 1400 Views
And - 17/07/2010 04:37:12 PM 1511 Views
To be honest, that misses part of the appeal for some of us - 17/07/2010 12:17:15 AM 1500 Views
It's a start - 16/07/2010 06:37:44 PM 1531 Views
Yeah, that's the other thing. - 16/07/2010 08:59:51 PM 1523 Views
Go Ben! \o/ *NM* - 18/07/2010 02:52:30 AM 723 Views
That's the root of the problem. - 21/07/2010 01:10:56 PM 1702 Views
Question - 18/07/2010 12:02:02 PM 1672 Views
I think it's reasonable - 17/07/2010 12:33:56 AM 1740 Views
I like it, and thanks =) - 23/07/2010 12:43:11 PM 1407 Views
I don't really have a problem paying - I just dislike Paypal. - 03/08/2010 05:53:14 PM 1974 Views

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