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Good point *NM* ursidae Send a noteboard - 12/07/2010 09:38:25 PM
Ben's asking for money to support the cost of processor power and bandwidth. He said as much in his post. As Jing pointed out, however, those things can often be had quite cheaply, and people are being asked to pay 15-22 USD apiece for them. Four or five such donations could support the site for a year, if Jing's assumptions are correct (they seem reasonable to me, though Alexa rankings aren't always very accurate), and this isn't even factoring in the donations (probably small, but worth noting) that Ben has received.

Of course, as you point out, Ben's time and programming effort are valuable too, and it's certainly reasonable for him to want to capitalize on that. However, that's not what's being asked for; there's been no mention of that. There's a difference between asking for help keeping the server running, and asking for people to pay your personal salary. When someone says "I need ten times as much money as this service actually costs," it's very reasonable to say "er, why's that again?"

Also, please don't get me wrong, I DO think Ben's time and effort is valuable, and worth paying for. Don't twist my words to make me seem anti-support. All I'm saying is that when one is being asked to hand over a fairly decent chunk of cash (for something that is typically free on the internet), it's not unconscionable to ask what one is paying for. Price breakdowns are requested all the time in the retail world, and I don't see anything wrong with requesting an itemized receipt.
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EDIT: Remember folks, today's the last day of the free premium accounts! - 06/07/2010 08:52:02 PM 3137 Views
Awesome job, mate! - 06/07/2010 09:03:20 PM 1185 Views
I see that you've also fixed the spelling of "received" in the noteboards. - 06/07/2010 09:08:00 PM 1229 Views
Erm... can you recheck your settings? - 06/07/2010 09:20:50 PM 1176 Views
They've not changed. *NM* - 06/07/2010 09:22:07 PM 666 Views
Default quote setting is excellent - 06/07/2010 10:02:35 PM 1234 Views
Nice! - 06/07/2010 11:51:09 PM 1013 Views
Yay! - 07/07/2010 04:32:39 PM 1047 Views
Time zone - 07/07/2010 05:23:43 PM 1029 Views
Yeah, Us/Eastern is ahead an hour too. - 07/07/2010 05:44:40 PM 1216 Views
Cool, I must locate some money to get one. *NM* - 08/07/2010 03:48:59 PM 716 Views
I all of a sudden miss Wse - 10/07/2010 01:28:00 AM 1112 Views
In a way, yes *NM* - 16/07/2010 06:43:14 AM 588 Views
Just how much bandwidth is Read and Find out using per month? - 11/07/2010 05:50:02 AM 1178 Views
So, you think Ben should pay it out of his own pocket then? - 12/07/2010 09:33:27 AM 1328 Views
Oh Jing. - 12/07/2010 08:05:31 PM 1203 Views
It's a very reasonable question. - 12/07/2010 09:29:26 PM 1309 Views
Good point *NM* - 12/07/2010 09:38:25 PM 599 Views
You want to charge people for functionality every other forum on the web gives them for free? - 14/07/2010 08:47:32 PM 1372 Views
It is exactly the same stuff Mike asked money for - 14/07/2010 09:00:55 PM 1042 Views
Why can't people even ask the question(s)? - 14/07/2010 09:22:11 PM 1185 Views
Re: Why can't people even ask the question(s)? - 14/07/2010 09:36:54 PM 1241 Views
Well - 14/07/2010 09:57:09 PM 1361 Views
Exactly. - 15/07/2010 12:09:14 AM 1138 Views
The messageboards are perfectly functional without a premium account. - 14/07/2010 09:17:43 PM 1013 Views
I see it as a way of giving people something back for donations. - 14/07/2010 10:09:08 PM 1295 Views
He does have a point when it comes to hyperlinks. - 15/07/2010 06:52:41 PM 1016 Views
There are other reasons why I don't want links in posts - 15/07/2010 08:18:53 PM 1048 Views
Why is that? - 15/07/2010 09:14:52 PM 1201 Views
Viable alternatives - 15/07/2010 01:16:39 AM 1235 Views
I have to agree with you here - 16/07/2010 06:55:43 AM 1008 Views
Advertising makes a site look like shit. - 16/07/2010 08:28:00 AM 958 Views
Only if you choose to let it. - 16/07/2010 12:17:47 PM 1254 Views
This is just the BBforum argument rehashed. - 16/07/2010 06:07:20 PM 1130 Views
But those are the very things being introduced by the premium accounts. - 17/07/2010 12:44:05 PM 1242 Views
Re: One Thing - 17/07/2010 04:24:51 PM 1130 Views
Agreed. - 17/07/2010 04:34:09 PM 1086 Views
RAFO is a lot of great things, but great-looking it is not. - 16/07/2010 02:28:50 PM 1155 Views
As I've said above... - 16/07/2010 01:49:37 PM 1212 Views
Just to be clear: - 16/07/2010 03:18:22 PM 1151 Views
Re: As I've said above... - 16/07/2010 05:58:39 PM 1171 Views
Premium Plus account does. - 16/07/2010 06:05:07 PM 1211 Views
Re: Premium Plus account does. - 16/07/2010 06:13:17 PM 1006 Views
Re: Premium Plus account does. - 16/07/2010 09:03:27 PM 1025 Views
And - 17/07/2010 04:37:12 PM 1107 Views
To be honest, that misses part of the appeal for some of us - 17/07/2010 12:17:15 AM 1102 Views
It's a start - 16/07/2010 06:37:44 PM 1125 Views
Yeah, that's the other thing. - 16/07/2010 08:59:51 PM 1114 Views
Go Ben! \o/ *NM* - 18/07/2010 02:52:30 AM 495 Views
That's the root of the problem. - 21/07/2010 01:10:56 PM 1287 Views
Question - 18/07/2010 12:02:02 PM 1302 Views
I think it's reasonable - 17/07/2010 12:33:56 AM 1333 Views
I like it, and thanks =) - 23/07/2010 12:43:11 PM 1036 Views
I don't really have a problem paying - I just dislike Paypal. - 03/08/2010 05:53:14 PM 1415 Views

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