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It's not a cardinal sin against humanity... Phelix Send a noteboard - 08/09/2010 07:55:55 PM
but it doesn't sound like she meant to say anything negative about gay people. So, perhaps ill thought, but soul-searching-bad? I don't think her comment was THAT bad...if she'd said "Assholes" instead of "Faggots" no one would have cared, but her intended meaning would not have likely changed. She was celebrating her team's victory by insulting the other team. That's far from unusual or some cardinal sin against humanity.


but it's the fact that in her lexicon it's insulting to call the other team faggots. That she considers it insulting to be queer.

Yes, it does require some soul searching. She claims that she is not homophobic, but thinks it's a horrible insult to call an ostensibly heterosexual group of men queer.

Take another example, the word "nigger." Most people in modern America wouldn't be caught dead saying that particular word unless they are rappers or from the ghetto. But, if you sit down with some seniors, who grew up in an era when that was "just what you called them" you'll hear it much more often. It was internalized in their culture and behavior.

My own grandfather, a Baptist Minister, used to tell the most horrible, offensive jokes, but he didn't mean anything by them. He loved the blacks in his church just as much as the whites.

Language has power, and the words you speak, speak about you and what's inside you.

For this woman, she obviously thinks it's an insult to call someone a faggot, which most would agree on. Why is it an insult? Because it derives from the negative stereotypes about queer men. When you call an athlete, a jock, a faggot you are questioning his masculinity because of course all faggots are nelly queens.

So, yes, I do think she needs to do some soul searching. Actions speak louder than words, and in this case the action was posting that tweet, and the words are her claims to not be homophobic.
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Interesting way to bring people together - 08/09/2010 04:36:19 PM 1990 Views
That is priceless. Go Stephanie Rice! *NM* - 08/09/2010 04:38:27 PM 516 Views
omigod....what a ridiculous overreaction - 08/09/2010 04:55:55 PM 1185 Views
omigod....what a ridiculous overreaction - 08/09/2010 04:55:55 PM 863 Views
1. That girl is an idiot who needs to do some soul searching... - 08/09/2010 07:07:47 PM 1146 Views
? not that her comment was excusable... - 08/09/2010 07:45:59 PM 1208 Views
It's not a cardinal sin against humanity... - 08/09/2010 07:55:55 PM 1342 Views
or it just means... - 08/09/2010 08:18:57 PM 1280 Views
Societal problems don't go away from the group level. - 08/09/2010 08:25:21 PM 1093 Views
your soul is your being - 08/09/2010 08:43:18 PM 1131 Views
Just because you search does not mean you re-evaluate. - 08/09/2010 08:45:31 PM 1020 Views
You have an odd definition of homophobe (or at least that's what your last paragraph implies). - 08/09/2010 10:04:52 PM 1104 Views
I was trying to use her words... - 08/09/2010 10:17:32 PM 1220 Views
Ah, okay. Her apology does seem rather clumsy, agreed there. - 08/09/2010 11:05:34 PM 1061 Views
Glad to clear up that confusion. - 08/09/2010 11:11:35 PM 1239 Views
I don't think you should read too much in the exact wording of her apology. - 08/09/2010 11:24:21 PM 1110 Views
I'm horrible for tearing into the meaning of words. - 08/09/2010 11:36:34 PM 1097 Views
Entirely agree *NM* - 08/09/2010 10:46:12 PM 595 Views
You should watch that Southpark episode where they change the meaning of the word faggot. - 08/09/2010 09:24:16 PM 998 Views
I've seen it, and it was funny. - 08/09/2010 09:40:43 PM 1199 Views
Suspect you need to consider the way the word is used in other countries. - 08/09/2010 09:46:05 PM 1064 Views
I admit, I don't know many (any) kiwis personally (in person that is)... - 08/09/2010 09:52:45 PM 1050 Views
The insult word for homosexuals Downunder tends to be Fruit or Queer. - 08/09/2010 09:58:04 PM 1238 Views
Don't forget Poofta!! - 08/09/2010 10:57:00 PM 900 Views
Heh, I had forgotten that. - 08/09/2010 10:58:53 PM 1149 Views
She said she needs to learn to think before she tweets lol - 08/09/2010 08:14:38 PM 1453 Views
Yes, but that's just a surface change. - 08/09/2010 08:20:59 PM 1286 Views
Re: Yes, but that's just a surface change. - 08/09/2010 08:39:52 PM 1508 Views
Re: Yes, but that's just a surface change. - 08/09/2010 08:43:55 PM 1121 Views
mm, i doubt that would make people shut up - 08/09/2010 08:44:29 PM 990 Views
A concerted effort would do it... - 08/09/2010 08:47:50 PM 1075 Views
heh, it's pretty cool that everyone came together like that - 08/09/2010 10:52:50 PM 887 Views
"Just because a person is gay, mayor, doesn't mean he is a fag" - 09/09/2010 05:27:50 AM 988 Views
It was a very good game though, wasn't it? *NM* - 09/09/2010 12:56:33 PM 626 Views

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