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Yes, but that's just a surface change. Phelix Send a noteboard - 08/09/2010 08:20:59 PM
If she still thinks it, but just doesn't say it... sure she won't be hurting people or publicly drawing their ire... but she'll still be thinking those things. A private homophobe instead of a public one. *shrug*

I think it would be better for her if she addressed why she thinks it's an insult to call someone a faggot, and work on that within herself.

2. To be in that march! There are some damn fine rugby players in your country, and some of their fans aren't too bad either. :winky: I'm sure some of those Gay SA marchers got to take home a questioning rugger. :D

I'll bet... and maybe some gay guys started rugby. It would be a mass conversion on every level lol.


Oooh... good point. :D When I visited your country, I met a trio of rugby playing brothers. We were at a BBQ (grilled boerwors are delicious) and there was a pool... rugby players jumping in and out of water all afternoon... it was all I could do not to stare. :shy:

3. A public apology is the beginning, hopefully she'll internalize the lesson. :)

People don't forget these things... it'll follow her around.


True, it will... but if she apologizes and then works to show she's learned by publicly sponsoring some queer event, or some such, it will get pushed down.
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Interesting way to bring people together Sidious - 08/09/2010 04:36:19 PM 2127 Views
That is priceless. Go Stephanie Rice! *NM* Legolas - 08/09/2010 04:38:27 PM 578 Views
omigod....what a ridiculous overreaction LadyLorraine - 08/09/2010 04:55:55 PM 1297 Views
omigod....what a ridiculous overreaction LadyLorraine - 08/09/2010 04:55:55 PM 974 Views
1. That girl is an idiot who needs to do some soul searching... Phelix - 08/09/2010 07:07:47 PM 1252 Views
? not that her comment was excusable... LadyLorraine - 08/09/2010 07:45:59 PM 1338 Views
It's not a cardinal sin against humanity... Phelix - 08/09/2010 07:55:55 PM 1441 Views
or it just means... LadyLorraine - 08/09/2010 08:18:57 PM 1381 Views
Societal problems don't go away from the group level. Phelix - 08/09/2010 08:25:21 PM 1187 Views
your soul is your being LadyLorraine - 08/09/2010 08:43:18 PM 1246 Views
Just because you search does not mean you re-evaluate. Phelix - 08/09/2010 08:45:31 PM 1140 Views
You have an odd definition of homophobe (or at least that's what your last paragraph implies). Legolas - 08/09/2010 10:04:52 PM 1232 Views
I was trying to use her words... Phelix - 08/09/2010 10:17:32 PM 1334 Views
Ah, okay. Her apology does seem rather clumsy, agreed there. Legolas - 08/09/2010 11:05:34 PM 1174 Views
Glad to clear up that confusion. Phelix - 08/09/2010 11:11:35 PM 1346 Views
I don't think you should read too much in the exact wording of her apology. Legolas - 08/09/2010 11:24:21 PM 1250 Views
I'm horrible for tearing into the meaning of words. Phelix - 08/09/2010 11:36:34 PM 1229 Views
Entirely agree *NM* ironclad - 08/09/2010 10:46:12 PM 655 Views
You should watch that Southpark episode where they change the meaning of the word faggot. Helene - 08/09/2010 09:24:16 PM 1132 Views
I've seen it, and it was funny. Phelix - 08/09/2010 09:40:43 PM 1317 Views
Suspect you need to consider the way the word is used in other countries. Rebekah - 08/09/2010 09:46:05 PM 1169 Views
I admit, I don't know many (any) kiwis personally (in person that is)... Phelix - 08/09/2010 09:52:45 PM 1158 Views
The insult word for homosexuals Downunder tends to be Fruit or Queer. Rebekah - 08/09/2010 09:58:04 PM 1354 Views
OK, I can see that. Phelix - 08/09/2010 10:09:16 PM 1247 Views
I think it's unfair to people to assume that there's some underlying bad nature... Rebekah - 08/09/2010 10:18:29 PM 1206 Views
I'm not assuming there's an underlying bad nature, I am saying she should look to see if it's there. Phelix - 08/09/2010 10:27:21 PM 1300 Views
And I'm saying that you're instantly looking on the negative side of things instead of Rebekah - 08/09/2010 10:46:11 PM 1167 Views
I don't think I'm looking at the negative side of things, merely saying that she needs to look. Phelix - 08/09/2010 11:01:11 PM 1228 Views
Or, she was replying to interview questions and thinking on her feet. Rebekah - 08/09/2010 11:10:26 PM 1282 Views
This is my first encounter with her. Phelix - 08/09/2010 11:24:42 PM 1432 Views
Don't forget Poofta!! LadyLorraine - 08/09/2010 10:57:00 PM 1001 Views
Heh, I had forgotten that. Rebekah - 08/09/2010 10:58:53 PM 1288 Views
She said she needs to learn to think before she tweets lol Sidious - 08/09/2010 08:14:38 PM 1562 Views
Yes, but that's just a surface change. Phelix - 08/09/2010 08:20:59 PM 1394 Views
Re: Yes, but that's just a surface change. Sidious - 08/09/2010 08:39:52 PM 1615 Views
Re: Yes, but that's just a surface change. Phelix - 08/09/2010 08:43:55 PM 1236 Views
mm, i doubt that would make people shut up LadyLorraine - 08/09/2010 08:44:29 PM 1118 Views
A concerted effort would do it... Phelix - 08/09/2010 08:47:50 PM 1197 Views
heh, it's pretty cool that everyone came together like that BlackAdder - 08/09/2010 10:52:50 PM 995 Views
"Just because a person is gay, mayor, doesn't mean he is a fag" Delireus - 09/09/2010 05:27:50 AM 1099 Views
It was a very good game though, wasn't it? *NM* Colonel Logain - 09/09/2010 12:56:33 PM 695 Views
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